Moderation Questions
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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by Victor m

immediately thought of him when I saw it today even though I think he is unfairly maligned for something that the libs do just as often.

Whatabouting the whataboutist.


whataboutism can be very important. Any justice system has to be fair and that requires the rules/laws being applied equally. Allowing a subset to be treated differently is one of the more pernicious forms of racism/etc.

It's often falsely attacked as defending the action when it's sometimes a correct attack on the way the laws/rules are applied selectively


by chezlaw m

whataboutism can be very important. Any justice system has to be fair and that requires the rules/laws being applied equally. Allowing a subset to be treated differently is one of the more pernicious forms of racism/etc.

It's often falsely attacked as defending the action when it's sometimes a correct attack on the way the laws/rules are applied selectively

The only reasons why we as humanity cannot have nice things are because of whataboutisms and hypocrisy-- which are really just two sides of the same coin-- and every societal ill that we have breaks down to one of those.


The attack of hypocrisy is often abused as well


by chezlaw m

The attack of hypocrisy is often abused as well

It's probably under used since everyone is hypocritical in one way or another, they won't call out hypocrisy in others for fear of bringing their own hypocrisy to light.


No it's overuse is a problem because it's an attack on people speaking out about anything they do themselves even when they recognise it's a bad thing when they do it as well.

There are no perfect people and recognising our faults/weaknesses is a good thing not a hypocritical thing.


by grizy m

There are genetic markers that strongly correlate with how you perceive bitter melon. We are biologically programmed to associate bitterness with poison so unless you had repeated exposures to bitterness (especially in positive contexts, such as medicines perceived to be healthy), your default response to bitter melon, especially if you got genes making you especially sensitive

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"Some supertasters are extra attuned to all five of these flavors. Others only react strongly to one or two. As a general rule, bitter flavors are most likely to send a supertaster running for the hills."

That's me.


by grizy m

There are genetic markers that strongly correlate with how you perceive bitter melon. We are biologically programmed to associate bitterness with poison so unless you had repeated exposures to bitterness (especially in positive contexts, such as medicines perceived to be healthy), your default response to bitter melon, especially if you got genes making you especially sensitive

"A spoon full of sugar helps the medicine go down."

Never thought of it in that context before.


by chezlaw m

whataboutism can be very important. Any justice system has to be fair and that requires the rules/laws being applied equally. Allowing a subset to be treated differently is one of the more pernicious forms of racism/etc.

It's often falsely attacked as defending the action when it's sometimes a correct attack on the way the laws/rules are applied selectively

Whataboutism isn’t a formal logical fallacy so it just depends on whether you don’t accept the argument that if someone else is doing something bad they can’t criticize you doing something bad when the two have no relation. I’d say it’s the lack of that relationality that makes it especially annoying.

Like when we’re criticizing Trump for something and Lozen says β€œyeah but the Democrats are crazy on the trans issue” that lacks any relation for the most part to the conversation.

On the other hand if we’re having a discussion on tariffs and he wants to bring up Biden putting on tariffs that might at least make sense why he brings it up. But then if the person just condemns those tariffs or can offer a symmetry breaker, the conversation really should shift to only being about the current tariffs which for Lozen it rarely does.


what about when you guys are acting like Putin is the worst since Hitler and then Biden does a genocide and Trump double taps a girls school?


by Victor m

what about when you guys are acting like Putin is the worst since Hitler and then Biden does a genocide and Trump double taps a girls school?

I don’t think I ever acted like Putin was the worst thing since Hitler.

What about when you get mad at zionists for denying war crimes of Israel but deny that Assad gassed his own people?


by Victor m

what about when you guys are acting like Putin is the worst since Hitler and then Biden does a genocide and Trump double taps a girls school?

It's why we can't have nice things. If everyone was held equally accountable that sort of **** wouldn't happen.


by Victor m

what about when you guys are acting like Putin is the worst since Hitler...?

In European terms he very much is.


by checkraisdraw m

I don’t think I ever acted like Putin was the worst thing since Hitler.

What about when you get mad at zionists for denying war crimes of Israel but deny that Assad gassed his own people?

well, the difference is the evidence. regardless, I dont remember saying Assad never did any gas attacks. many of the accusations have been proven #fakenews though.


The gas attacks were a false flag.


by Luckbox Inc m

The gas attacks were a false flag.

Was 9/11 a false flag?


by Luckbox Inc m

The gas attacks were a false flag.

There is fairly comprehensive video of Assad's helicopters dropping gas bombs, and of the results. As the old saying goes, try putting more tobacco in it next time.


by d2_e4 m

Was 9/11 a false flag?

Yes and one but all but the most mentally incompetent people are capable of recognizing.


by Luckbox Inc m

Yes and one but all but the most mentally incompetent people are capable of recognizing.

I guess I got taken in by the oFfIcIaL nArRaTiVe. You need to come to the 9/11 thread and help out your man Deuces, he's stuck on some FEMA report molten steel stuff.

Oh, and Luckbox, what shape is the Earth?


by Luckbox Inc m

The gas attacks were a false flag.

I often sniff random fabric after gas attacks



by Victor m

I often sniff fabric after gas attacks

FYP


by chezlaw m

whataboutism can be very important. Any justice system has to be fair and that requires the rules/laws being applied equally. Allowing a subset to be treated differently is one of the more pernicious forms of racism/etc.

It's often falsely attacked as defending the action when it's sometimes a correct attack on the way the laws/rules are applied selectively

What a hilarious precursor to the rest of this thread so far


by Victor m

well, the difference is the evidence. regardless, I dont remember saying Assad never did any gas attacks. many of the accusations have been proven #fakenews though.

right so it’s not in principle bad to question mainstream narratives about alleged atrocities. I don’t have to accept that Israel bombed hospitals just because the BBC implies it without evidence.


you dont have to accept that the earth is round either


by Victor m

you dont have to accept that the earth is round either

non-sequitor

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