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The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by Victor
by corpus vile

Lmao. Anyway vic tell me specifically why Stalin wasn't a bad man.

Beat the Nazis. Does that make you mad?

And? Is that your answer? Again how does make Stalin a good person? Was he a good person when he allied with the Nazis under the Von Ribbentrop agreement? Wouldn't this not make him bad? By that rationale who was the good guy in the Iran Iraq war, Saddam or the Ayatollah?
Both the Nazis and Soviet Union, particularly under Stalin were odious regimes who briefly allied with each other as said. So how does this make Stalin a good person? Also apart from what passes for your reason you just gave me, can you give me other examples on how Joe was an all round good egg?


Was he a good person when he allied with the Nazis under the Von Ribbentrop agreement

we have been over this. he tried for years to ally with the West bc he knew that Germany wanted to take over Russia and the East. you know, the thing that Hitler talked about doing and wrote a book about. curiously the UK France and USA did not want to help. weird. dont think too hard about it.

so he bought time and reindustrialized his country after the devastating WW1 and civil war (and Wester occupation too btw).

who was the good guy in the Iran Iraq war, Saddam or the Ayatollah

Im gonna go with the guy who was not backed by the CIA in his rise to power and not backed by the West in his illegal invasion and was not dropping chemical weapons all over the place.


by Victor

Beat the Nazis. Does that make you mad?

I continue to be utterly baffled by the implication of this argument. Are you of all people defending a country's government by pointing to the fact that the country prevailed in a war?


I consider beating the Nazis to be a #goodThing. I understand that Westerners are confused by this if the credit goes to the Asiatic Commies.


by Victor

Was he a good person when he allied with the Nazis under the Von Ribbentrop agreement

no. we have been over this. he tried for years to ally with the West bc he knew that Germany wanted to take over Russia and the East. you know, the thing that Hitler talked about doing and wrote a book about.so he bought time and reindustrialized his country after the devastating WW1 and ci

No they were definitely allied briefly with a non aggression pact so how does this make Stalin good? The west also beat the nazis so doesn't that make the west good too seeing as ut makes Stalin good in your eyes?
How else was Stalin good vic can you give other examples?


by corpus vile

No they were definitely allied briefly with a non aggression pact so how does this make Stalin good The west also beat the nazis so doesn't that make the west good too seeing as ut makes Stalin good in your eyes
How else was Stalin good vic can you give other examples

Stalin signed a strategic non-aggression pact to buy time and with that time he was able to beat the Nazis. this was ofc no more an alliance that what the West did at Munich and in other pacts they formed with Hitler.

The west also beat the nazis

I mean, thats kind of like saying that Matthew Delavedova beat the Warriors.


In fact, after Germany broke the Munich Agreement by seizing the rest of Czechoslovakia, Britain and France approached the Soviets about joining the security coalition against the Germans (much to the alarm of the Poles, who rightly feared Stalin's intentions), and Stalin agreed to talks, but it soon became apparent that he didn't want to fight Germany and was just demanding Anglo-French carte blanche to annexe the Baltics and Finland, which wasn't on.

He then signed the Nazi-Soviet Pact instead. This deal supplied most of the fuel for the Nazi blitzkrieg against the West in 1940, which suited Stalin's aims. He was shocked when Hitler turned on him in '41.


by Victor

not as much as the Russkies

Okay, but that didn't answer my question.

I'll try again, this time with FEELING: Was a FDR a BAD man?


by 57 On Red

In fact, after Germany broke the Munich Agreement by seizing the rest of Czechoslovakia, Britain and France approached the Soviets about joining the security coalition against the Germans (much to the alarm of the Poles, who rightly feared Stalin's intentions), and Stalin agreed to talks, but it soon became apparent that he didn't want to fight Germany and was just demanding An

No, Uncle Joe!? He seemed like such a nice guy.


by Victor
by corpus vile

No they were definitely allied briefly with a non aggression pact so how does this make Stalin good The west also beat the nazis so doesn't that make the west good too seeing as ut makes Stalin good in your eyesHow else was Stalin good vic can you give other examples

Stalin signed a strategic non-aggression pact to buy time and with that time he was able to beat the Nazis. this

But by your own rationale if Stalin is good due to the Soviet Union helping to beat the nazis then surely the west is too? Still waiting for other examples of how one of history's greatest monsters like Stalin is good. Whenever you're ready.


vic, i think you'd really enjoy this book



by Victor

I consider beating the Nazis to be a #goodThing. I understand that Westerners are confused by this if the credit goes to the Asiatic Commies.

That isn't the question. Everyone considers beating the Nazis a good thing.


by Rococo

That isn't the question. Everyone considers beating the Nazis a good thing.

I'm going to channel my inner Rococo and venture that Victor is not particularly smart.

In particular, I'd venture that he struggles to respond to your post in anything that anyone except the man himself would consider a meaningful manner.



by Victor

not as much as the Russkies

So you do believe in nuance.


by Rococo

That isn't the question. Everyone considers beating the Nazis a good thing.

Let's just say it's complicated and move on.



by tame_deuces

I wrote a very long post about technology, society, where it was headed and the illusion of normalcy, but at the end it felt it was more about enjoying the sound of my own voice than making a point.So instead I'll just say that people who who can take a step back in and be contemplative or bored these days must be doing something right, because that is not easy in this age of s

Initially it's a bitch because the anxiety is the initial withdrawal from a low level dopamine drip of modern life. So, you when you remove it, you feel restless from the lack of stimulation, not really boredom. It's like eating chocolate for every meal, you're taste buds get messed up and good food tastes bland.

But I feel that once you stay out of it for long enough, you start recalibrating and other things start feeling rewarding again, but that's where the actual boredom comes in - and I'm not saying that that is the good part, it's lowering the threshold for what keeps you content that is.


Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or victor what Hitler and Stalin did to Poland.


by checkraisdraw

Never ask a man his salary, a woman her age, or victor what Hitler and Stalin did to Poland.

Quit stealing my jokes.


Stalin actually wanted to station troops in Poland to protect against Hitler in the 30s. the reactionary Polish regime, the same regime that used the Munich deal to steal a bunch of Czech land, said no, and so did the Brits.


How dare they.


by Victor

Stalin actually wanted to station troops in Poland to protect against Hitler in the 30s. the reactionary Polish regime, the same regime that used the Munich deal to steal a bunch of Czech land, said no, and so did the Brits.

Ah yes, the classic "we have to 'station troops' there to protect the people" bit that every empire does.


remind me again who liberated Poland?


Remind me again what war machine your tax dollars fund?


its nuanced bro

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