Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
Stuck behind a guy on a two lane highway going 5+ under as he swerves all over the road and I can see him staring down at his phone in his side view mirror and can’t help but wonder if he feels proud of himself
Stuck behind a guy on a two lane highway going 5+ under as he swerves all over the road and I can see him staring down at his phone in his side view mirror and can’t help but wonder if he feels proud of himself
Not everyone is as good a driver as Luckbox.
I dunno how many dogs would be needed to take a moose but its probably more than you have and they aren't particularly friendly creatures
Having your dog sniff around an adult healthy moose is a good way of getting your dog killed. Moose don't mess around. They are not afraid of people either, so it could be very difficult to rescue poor Fido from a scrap. It could even be dangerous for yourself to try.
To put it into perspective: Even bears tend to avoid hunting adult moose, as their kick can be deadly even to them. Wolves only hunt them in packs, a lone wolf is smart enough to stay the hell away from a healthy adult moose.
And as ferocious a breed or dangerous as Fido might be, he would be well outmatched.
Also, nature isn't a Pokemon game. Being respectful of wildlife is a good thing. Hunt game or control populations by all means, but outside that we should be good wardens for animals in the wild.
Having your dog sniff around an adult healthy moose is a good way of getting your dog killed. Moose don't mess around. They are not afraid of people either, so it could be very difficult to rescue poor Fido from a scrap. It could even be dangerous for yourself to try. To put it into perspective: Even bears tend to avoid hunting adult moose, as their kick can be deadly even to t
sadly, moose are another thing our military is woefully ill prepared to handle and the russkies are ready to ride them bareback into battle
If said moose works as a deckhand on a Caribbean trawler or insults your president on Twitter, it might be in danger.
Measured take
This kind of goes down the path of asking how and why did she/we get here
Do you know what didn't happen under Obama? No US citizens where detained, beaten, disappeared, villainized, or murdered
I know that logic is incredibly difficult for you Canadian MAGA ******s, but maybe you just don't have the perspective to talk about US politics in any form of intelligent fashion.
I don't know if this is because you are foreign, a drooling ******, or if Canadian education is just that bad that you are all like this, but my god you guys say and do the dumbest **** literally daily
I'm to the point that I just don't give a **** what any of you have to say. You are unintelligent, abrasive, flat out wrong about everything, and relentless
Go get into Canadian politics. Do something for yourself and your home country
I guess I could respond point by point to the video. No face masks, IDs, Badge numbers, not targeting citizens, not shoving civilians for no reason, not harassing civilians, not doing it in broad daylight in parking lots in the middle of streets, etc
We've said all this 50 times now so what would be the point? Like quoting blatant white nationalist Elon Musk. What do you think you are accomplishing?
I'll just say how I really feel: You guys are too arrogant to ever update your world view and thus are too stupid to engage with
Hole really enjoys the murder of an innocent woman. Typical maga nazi.
I'm to the point that I just don't give a **** what any of you have to say. You are unintelligent, abrasive, flat out wrong about everything, and relentless
lozen reply: Yeah, but what about Vic ?
I guess I could respond point by point to the video. No face masks, IDs, Badge numbers, not targeting citizens, not shoving civilians for no reason, not harassing civilians, not doing it in broad daylight in parking lots in the middle of streets, etcWe've said all this 50 times now so what would be the point? Like quoting blatant white nationalist Elon Musk. What do you thin
Yeah you could go point by point but that would be even more embarrassing
Yeah the face masks are new. Any idea why coordi?
Because they are terrorizing citizens as a show of force and wearing masks is an intimidation tactic.
Again, explained 50 times to you so your attempt at a gotcha just highlights my point perfectly
I will engage with you on a serious level when you can just plainly state that you are a Canadian white nationalist who lives vicariously through the MAGA movement. Until you admit what is perfectly clear to everyone else you will continue to receive the level of care that you have been, which is to say, you will be lambasted endlessly
There is a reason people debated Luciom but wont debate you, and its because of the above.
Because they are terrorizing citizens as a show of force and wearing masks is an intimidation tactic.Again, explained 50 times to you so your attempt at a gotcha just highlights my point perfectlyI will engage with you on a serious level when you can just plainly state that you are a Canadian white nationalist who lives vicariously through the MAGA movement. Until you admit wh
No, you're supposed to say it's to protect themselves from the Radical Left Menace, while they heroically put their lives on the line to protect America. IT's the Radical Left who are the real bad guys here, not ICE heroes, who aren't acting thuggish or outright murderous at all whatsoever.
The idea that ICE agents should have an expectation of anonymity strikes me as far-fetched. There are tens of thousands of unmasked police officers and FBI agents happily going about their business this afternoon. And until recently, ICE agents didn't wear masks either. It's mostly an intimidation tactic, and perversely, it probably encourages bad behavior by agents.
Do you know what didn't happen under Obama? No US citizens where detained, beaten, disappeared, villainized, or murdered
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The idea that ICE agents should have an expectation of anonymity strikes me as far-fetched. There are tens of thousands of unmasked police officers and FBI agents happily going about their business this afternoon. And until recently, ICE agents didn't wear masks either. It's mostly an intimid
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[QUOTE]Official DHS/ICE Reported StatisticsDHS has released several updates attributing the rise to "sanctuary politicians'" rhetoric and increased enforcement activities, which they say have heightened resistance:From January 21 to November 21, 2025: 238 reported assaults on ICE officers, compared to 19 in the same period of 2024 (a claimed 1, 153% increase).
For the full year 2025 (January 20–December 31): 275 assaults, compared to 19 in the prior year (a 1, 347% increase).
Vehicular attacks (e.g., ramming or using vehicles as weapons): 66 incidents from January 21, 2025, to early January 2026, versus 2 in the equivalent prior period (a 3, 200% increase).
Death threats: An 8, 000% increase (specific baseline numbers not always detailed in releases).
Earlier mid-year claims (e.g., June–July 2025): Assaults up 500–830%, escalating over time.
Examples cited by DHS include:Suspects hitting officers with objects (e.g., a metal coffee cup causing stitches).
Resisting arrests with physical force (spitting, kicking, biting).
Vehicle rammings during operations in cities like Chicago and Los Angeles.
Isolated serious incidents, such as a sniper firing at a Dallas ICE facility (killing detainees but targeting agents) and Molotov cocktails thrown at officers.
DHS emphasizes these stem from expanded street-level arrests and operations in resistant communities.
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[QUOTE]Yes, doxxing (publicly revealing personal information like home addresses, family details, or social media profiles without consent) is considered a serious threat to ICE agents and their families, according to official statements from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and ICE, as well as documented incidents and prosecutions since early 2025.DHS has repeatedly described doxxing as part of an "unprecedented level of violence and threats" against ICE personnel amid intensified immigration enforcement under the second Trump administration. Officials link it to escalated assaults (claimed increases of 1, 000%+), death threats (up to 8, 000%), and vehicular attacks, arguing that exposing identities enables harassment, stalking, swatting, or worse from activists, protesters, or criminal groups like gangs.Key Documented Incidents and ExamplesDHS press releases and federal cases highlight specific cases:Family harassment and direct threats — An ICE officer’s spouse in Texas received profane calls threatening the family (e.g., "I hope your kids get deported by accident" and references to Nazi retribution). Other families have reported violent messages and death threats after identification online.
Pursuit and posting addresses — In September 2025, three women were federally indicted in Los Angeles for following an ICE agent home, livestreaming the pursuit, and posting his address on Instagram — charged as illegal doxxing.
Online campaigns — In San Diego, a man (Gregory John Curcio) was arrested for posting an ICE attorney's home address online, urging harassment and "swatting" (false emergency calls to provoke armed response). This stemmed from a harassment campaign dating back to 2024 but escalated in 2025.
Neighborhood intimidation — In Portland and other areas, flyers with agents' names, photos, addresses, and family details were posted, accompanied by slogans like "NO PEACE FOR ICE" or "CHINGA LA MIGRA." Some included threats of violence.
Large-scale leaks — As recently as January 13–14, 2026 (just days ago), a reported DHS whistleblower allegedly leaked personal data (names, emails, phone numbers, job roles) of ~4, 500 DHS/ICE/Border Patrol employees to the website "ICE List." The site, which tracks agents and incidents, saw a surge in submissions after the fatal shooting of Renee Good in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026. DHS called this "disgusting" and said it endangers lives and families, vowing prosecutions (potentially 4, 500 felonies). The founder claimed ~2, 000 entries involve frontline agents.
DHS officials, including Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin and Secretary Kristi Noem, have warned that doxxing puts agents at risk from "violent agitators, " sophisticated gangs (e.g., Tren de Aragua, MS-13), and others who could exploit the info for attacks. They tie it to broader rhetoric from "sanctuary politicians" and protests.
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ICE agents began wearing masks (such as balaclavas, gaiters, ski masks, or other face coverings) routinely during public-facing immigration enforcement operations starting around March 2025, shortly after President Trump's second inauguration and the ramp-up of his mass deportation campaign.Former ICE officials from prior administrations (including under Obama and Biden) have stated they did not recall routine mask-wearing by agents in previous years, describing it as a new practice that emerged in early 2025 as enforcement intensified. Reports and footage from raids in cities like Los Angeles (as early as May–June 2025) show masked agents becoming prominent, with the tactic spreading nationwide by mid-2025.Primary Reason: Protection from Doxxing and ThreatsThe Department of Homeland Security (DHS), ICE leadership (including Acting Director Todd Lyons and Border Czar Tom Homan), and officials like Secretary Kristi Noem have consistently defended the practice as a necessary safety measure. Agents and their families face heightened risks from😃oxxing — Public exposure of personal information (e.g., home addresses, photos, family details) online or via flyers, which DHS says has occurred "by the thousands" since early 2025.
Escalating threats — Including death threats, harassment (e.g., profane calls to spouses), swatting attempts, stalking, and physical assaults tied to identified agents.
Broader context — DHS links this to a claimed surge in assaults on ICE officers (hundreds reported in 2025), vehicular attacks, and resistance fueled by protests, activist campaigns, and rhetoric from critics. They argue masks prevent identification that could enable retaliation from "violent agitators, " gangs, or others.
ICE's official FAQ and statements explicitly note: "ICE law enforcement officers wear masks to prevent doxing, which can (and has) placed them and their families at risk." This aligns with federal prosecutions of doxxing cases (e.g., individuals posting addresses and urging harassment).Criticisms and Counter-ArgumentsCritics, including Democratic lawmakers, civil rights groups (e.g., Human Rights Watch, Center for American Progress), and former officials, argue the masks:Undermine accountability and transparency, making it hard to identify agents in cases of alleged misconduct or excessive force.
Create fear and confusion in communities (e.g., resembling "secret police" or kidnappers), especially when agents use plainclothes, unmarked vehicles, and refuse to show IDs.
Are disproportionate or unnecessary, as historical norms limited masks to undercover/tactical scenarios, not routine arrests.
Let me guess, I'm the one being propagandized with misinformation and irrational theories. The left haven't been enraged and all the videos of ice being accosted, threatened, and attacked are misleading in the real temperature out there. The opposition to ice had been civilized
I understand the feeling coordi must have about being above explaining his spazzes
