Moderation Questions
The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa
And you gotta be super duper dumb to opine that not only was Putin correct aggressively invading Ukraine (while simultaneously condemning aggression by other countries like AmeriKKKa and their Venezuelan aggression), but that the Soviet gulags were better than US prisons.
Don't come out with such blatant dumb****ery and others won't point out how stupid you are.
me, a dumb person: slaughtering children to steal their land is bad
d2, a smart person: I fully support Israel
And by fully support do you think he supports the things he thinks are bad? Because it doesn’t follow that supporting a country means you support all their bad actions.
And by fully support do you think he supports the things he thinks are bad? Because it doesn’t follow that supporting a country means you support all their bad actions.
Victor doesn’t believe in nuance. Which is why he doesn’t want to talk about supporting the US war machine with his tax dollars.
There was pretty much no good faith/ non idiotic Russia apologia over Ukraine the US is at fault because of NATO expansion etc. none is saying Russia pepping up Maduro or giving him military aid in the western hemisphere justifies civilian causalities inna US takeover.
Victor doesn’t believe in nuance. Which is why he doesn’t want to talk about supporting the US war machine with his tax dollars.
Does Vic pay taxes?
There was pretty much no good faith/ non idiotic Russia apologia over Ukraine the US is at fault because of NATO expansion etc. none is saying Russia pepping up Maduro or giving him military aid in the western hemisphere justifies civilian causalities inna US takeover.
right, only the US and Israel are allowed to kill civilians
eta just looked it up and NYT says their source puts death toll at 80 and counting. 90 injured. seems fine.
Is there a reason why I showed my prompt and you didn't show yours? Would it be because you asked leading questions and I didn't, perchance?
And by fully support do you think he supports the things he thinks are bad? Because it doesn’t follow that supporting a country means you support all their bad actions.
I have never even taken a stance on Israel other than that one post. I just said that to troll him.
Victor, smarter than you is not "super smart". Most 8 year olds manage it without breaking a sweat.
Is there a reason why I showed my prompt and you didn't show yours? Would it be because you asked leading questions and I didn't, perchance?
I asked it if oppresssor/oppressed is connected to identity politics and I asked if Marxists are critical of identity politics.
And by fully support do you think he supports the things he thinks are bad? Because it doesn’t follow that supporting a country means you support all their bad actions.
he literally said, and I quoted it upthread, that he "fully supports Israel" (for ethnic identity religious reasons ie, in his own words bc he is Jewish). and he said it at the height of their mass murder of children. but right, maybe he didnt mean that part.
I asked it if oppresssor/oppressed is connected to identity politics and I asked if Marxists are critical of identity politics.
Those questions seem pretty leading to me. Note the phrasing of my prompt and compare to yours.
Those questions seem pretty leading to me. Note the phrasing of my prompt and compare to yours.
Are you arguing that aí is unreliable?
I think we know that AI is unreliable. It's certainly suggestible, making it a lot more unreliable when you start asking leading questions.
You are acting like the oppressor/oppressed model is the exclusive purview of one particular ideology, i.e. identity politics. I am pointing out that it isn't, and its genesis is in fact Marxism. This is also supported by CRD's post quoting the relevant parts of the communist manifesto.
What modern day Marxists might or might not do is irrelevant to where the idea originated if it's explicitly in the original ****ing manifesto, Tweedledumb. Between you and Tweedledee over there claiming to have never even heard of such a thing, you make quite the clown double act.
you’re ******ed, I literally provided sources of Marx and Lenin using the oppressor/oppressed paradigm.
Your argument is that Marx and Lenin were identitarians or merely that they used the words 'oppressor' and 'oppressed' in some of their writings?
You probably know it as the bourgeoisie and the proletariat. I'll let you into a secret, same thing, my dude.
Oppresssor/oppressed is usually used in some sort of identity politics framework whereas bourgeois/proletariat is Marxism and very much not identity politics. So not the same thing.
I think we know that AI is unreliable. It's certainly suggestible, making it a lot more unreliable when you start asking leading questions.You are acting like the oppressor/oppressed model is the exclusive purview of one particular ideology, i.e. identity politics. I am pointing out that it isn't, and its genesis is in fact Marxism. This is also supported by CRD's post quoting
D2, let's rewind the tape. Can you agree now that my original statement and every subsequent post is accurate?
Would you agree that regardless of anything said 180 years ago, that if Marxists generally abhore identity politics and if the opporessor/oppressed is used today in an ip format, that it would not be the same thing as proletariat/boog?
You’re a ****ing moron. Not that I consider AI a source but since you’re so braindead here’s the source you accept. Moron.
Ask it now what Marxists think of identity politics.
You won't because you're too scared.
Your own link agrees with me ffs and you call me a moron.
You're literally saying "yes it has been expanded to include things outside of traditional Marxism"....
What would that mean??? Same thing as proletariat/bourgeois or not the same thing?
