Moderation Questions

Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by mongidig

I'm a Jew by birth but not a practicing Jew. I think religion is insane. I must admit that most of my family does think they are superior to others. This is mostly my family that is orthodox. My family that is conservative not as much but a little.

Both Palestinians and Israelies would like to slaughter each other to be fair.

The orthodox side of your family in particular must love how you help your "side projects" become camgirls.


by Rococo

The orthodox side of your family in particular must love how you help your "side projects" become camgirls.

why do you think they would care?




by Rococo

The orthodox side of your family in particular must love how you help your "side projects" become camgirls.

Nobody in my family knows about that. That's just my little side hustle.


by Victor

why do you think they would care?

Victor doing “the Jews are spreading porn” conspiracy theories? Color me shocked.


I didnt say anything about "spreading porn." I pushed back on the idea that Orthodox Jews are somehow antiporn. which is actually the thesis of this article from a Jewish publication.



by Victor

I didnt say anything about "spreading porn." I pushed back on the idea that Orthodox Jews are somehow antiporn. which is actually the thesis of this article from a Jewish publication.

That guy is ******ed, you’re an antisemite.


probably


I tend to try to treat all people equal. I guess thats a problem.


by Victor

probably I tend to try to treat all people equal. I guess thats a problem.

And how many braindead leftist thinkpieces have been written about how it’s more racist to say you’re not racist as a white person? I just scoff when western leftists like you that complain about white supremacy, genocide, and settler colonialism all day don’t like when the same stupid tricks are used against you.


And how many braindead leftist thinkpieces have been written about how it’s more racist to say you’re not racist as a white person?

never heard of such a thing. but I will take your word for it. still not sure how it applies to this.


by Victor

never heard of such a thing. but I will take your word for it. still not sure how it applies to this.

The oppressor/oppressed paradigm makes people say stupid things.


by checkraisdraw

The oppressor/oppressed paradigm makes people say stupid things.

Mhm, just like crime rates going up makes people buy ice cream.

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Stupid people buy into stupid paradigms and say stupid things.


by checkraisdraw

The oppressor/oppressed paradigm makes people say stupid things.

not a paradigm I am familiar with outside of condescending remarks from yourself and Dunyain. like, Ive read plenty about anti-Imperialism but not this one. got any referrences?


by Victor

not a paradigm I am familiar with outside of condescending remarks from yourself and Dunyain. like, Ive read plenty about anti-Imperialism but not this one. got any referrences?

You probably know it as the bourgeoisie and the proletariat. I'll let you into a secret, same thing, my dude.


by d2_e4

You probably know it as the bourgeoisie and the proletariat. I'll let you into a secret, same thing, my dude.

Oppresssor/oppressed is usually used in some sort of identity politics framework whereas bourgeois/proletariat is Marxism and very much not identity politics. So not the same thing.


by Luckbox Inc

Oppresssor/oppressed is usually used in some sort of identity politics framework whereas bourgeois/proletariat is Marxism and very much not identity politics. So not the same thing.

Yeah, no.



by d2_e4

Mhm, just like crime rates going up makes people buy ice cream.

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Stupid people buy into stupid paradigms and say stupid things.

I think that in a way there’s a certain form to dialectical arguments that actually entail that the conclusion won’t follow from the premises. It doesn’t matter how smart you are if you buy a bad argument.


by Victor

not a paradigm I am familiar with outside of condescending remarks from yourself and Dunyain. like, Ive read plenty about anti-Imperialism but not this one. got any referrences?

Is the Communist Manifesto enough of a reference for you?



Or how about Lenin, who developed Marxism to include analysis of Imperialism?

First, what is the cardinal idea underlying our theses? It is the distinction between oppressed and oppressor nations. Unlike the Second International and bourgeois democracy, we emphasize this distinction. In this age of imperialism, it is particularly important for the proletariat and the Communist International to establish the concrete economic facts and to proceed from concrete realities, not from abstract postulates, in all colonial and national problems.

The characteristic feature of imperialism consists in the whole world, as we now see, being divided into a large number of oppressed nations and an insignificant number of oppressor nations, the latter possessing colossal wealth and powerful armed forces. The vast majority of the world’s population, over a billion, perhaps even 1.25 billion people, or, if we take the total population of the world as 1.75 billion, about 70 percent of the world’s population, belongs to the oppressed nations, which are either in a state of direct colonial dependence or are semicolonies as, for example, Persia, Turkey, and China, or else, conquered by some big imperialist power, have become greatly dependent on that power by virtue of peace treaties. This idea of a division, of dividing the nations into oppressor and oppressed, runs through the theses, not only the first theses published earlier over my signature but also those submitted by Comrade Roy. The latter were framed chiefly from the standpoint of the situation in India and other big Asian countries oppressed by Britain. Herein lies their great importance to us.

https://themilitant.com/2021/07/17/lenin...


by checkraisdraw

I think that in a way there’s a certain form to dialectical arguments that actually entail that the conclusion won’t follow from the premises. It doesn’t matter how smart you are if you buy a bad argument.

I am saying that "being smart" and "buying bad [or fallacious] arguments" are, at least more often than not, mutually exclusive. Dumb people generally believe/think/say dumb things. That's what "being dumb" means.


me, a dumb person: slaughtering children to steal their land is bad
d2, a smart person: I fully support Israel


Also Victor/Deuces:

Russians slaughtering children in Ukraine to steal the land of their parents is a great thing and I frequently masturbate to these images!


by Victor

me, a dumb person: slaughtering children to steal their land is bad
d2, a smart person: I fully support Israel

Is it your contention that supporting Israel ipso facto makes someone stupid? When I call you the dumbest mother****er here, it's more of a lifetime achievement award than a response to any specific position you take (although your views on the Gulags and on North Korea are definitely worthy of some sort of award in and of themselves).


Is it your contention that supporting Israel ipso facto makes someone stupid?

no. my contention is it makes you no better than a Nazi. and Id rather be dumb than a genocide supporter ethnofascist.


by Victor

no. my contention is it makes you no better than a Nazi. and Id rather be dumb than a genocide supporter ethnofascist.

You'll be thrilled to learn that half your wish has come true.


by Victor

me, a dumb person: slaughtering children to steal their land is bad
d2, a smart person: I fully support Israel

D2 is smarter than you, victor. This is not even up for debate and if you think it is, it's because you're not smart.


right, you gotta be super smart to support Israel and the USA.

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