President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
The administration exclusively does whataboutisms and ad hominem attacks and now discourse has devolved into whataboutisms and ad hominem attacks. Not that discourse was good or productive before, but you can see it in the discussions even here.
Everything that is done is handwaved because of X
Thats why Lozen brought up the basketball court, because it frames Obama as making frivolous expensive upgrades that nobody cared about then when it was like .1% of the congressional approved upgrade budget
and why I said this
Lozen keeps getting skullfukked in this thread.
Also the idea that Trump is going to pay for a 250 million dollar ballroom is kinda thrown out the window when you realize Trump is asking for 230 million from DOJ for hardships
So even if you believe that he will pay for it (he wont) the plan is to fund it from the DOJ settlement (taxpayers)
The corruption is quite indefensible
Historic preservation has value, but it isn't always straightforward what that value is.
The White House was gutted and reduced to a shell under Harry Truman (of course this had happened before in the War of 1812) and given a total internal reconstruction. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hous...
It has been made over several times since then, though not so drastically. JFK's famous swimming pool, where he swam every day to ease his back, later became the press room, and God knows what it is now. Got boilers in it or something. Only the exterior of the main mansion is truly historic.
The West Wing dates from Theodore Roosevelt's time and has been frequently made over. The original Oval Office was put there by Taft but the current one is an FDR rebuild, again frequently subject to further work.
"Hey, guise, completely demolishing a building is the same as renovating the interior of a building."
[URL="https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/10/23/obama-white-house-renovation/"]And this article shows that the $370,000,000 white house upgrade was not Obama's idea[/URL]"It's misleading to suggest Obama personally "spent" $370 million on White House renovations, as some posts claimed, as Congress approved the project's funding during Bush's time in office."What the righties seem
lmao
and anyway imagine comparing a renovation approved by congress and a demented old **** building a ballroom as he’s crashing our country like the titanic.
"Hey guise, completely demolishing a building without congressional approval while lying to the general public about a myriad of things during a government shutdown while denying taxpayers their entitlements is the same as congressionally approved renovations"
quality stuff guys. keep up this enriching and intellectually stimulating analysis
Couple of trees commemorating presidents Warren G. Harding and Franklin D. Roosevelt now gone too.
Really not getting the concept of the 'conserve' part of Conservative...
Vance’s eyeliner game is on point tbf
He must get through the couches like a bandit.
My actual quote
No were does it say the court cost 370 million it says included converting . The point is did he go to congress for that 370 million? The outrage was Trump is spending 200 million while cutting healthcare .
Keep lying Trolling
Actually no, Obama didn't go to congress for any of that money.
It was proposed in 2008 by president Bush, and passed by Congress in the same year.
Plus it was for needed renovations, not knocking down a whole building to make another building that no one apart from Trump has approved.
And the basketball court wasn't even a part of that amount. As far as I can tell, that minor expense was paid by Obama personally. I read that he even declined to use the standard $10k which is allocated to each president for typical non-destructive remodeling.
Lozen admits many times his wrong but just keep repeating the same nonsense knowing it’s wrong because he likes it and wish someday it becomes true .
Not much else to do can be done to remedy the situation .
Lozen is basically bahbahbitchass with more time on his hands
his entire output is the lamest whataboutism ever, and i can't believe anyone indulges that bullshit
There’s a ton of ‘I must win on the Internet’ energy in this forum. It basically explained everyone wanting to keep Lucy around
Yes, Luciom was banned. I don't know if it's permanent.
Apparently he was temped and the owner of the site jumped in and perma’d
So now we have lozen filling in the vacuum
that_pope, that lands, and nails it. But it also violates an unspoken rule about posting jd vance pictures. Unlike Trump who is squarely disgusting, JD exists in an uncanny valley.
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