The murder of Charlie Kirk

It somewhat matters to the discussion of the shooters proficiency

Not really. I don't see how it makes a difference how proficient the shooter was or wasn't.

This is even more notable as an example because it happened over 20 years ago. Times sure have changed

well black QB's are not exactly struggling. Times have a changed.

From NYTimes

They have the technology.

Obviously. I was commenting on whether it should done and how much time it would take, not on whether it could be done.

If the carotid artery was the actual target, that is a sniper level shot from that distance. Everything I’ve learned about sniper school has been against my will (thanks dad) but if you were trained at Ft Benning you can take that shot consistently.

It’s just that I don’t think the neck was the target. So now it’s a question of what they were aiming at, the head or the body? An amateur shoots for the body.

It only matters for the purpose of speculating about the person's background. The person inevitably will be caught, and after he is, his background will be whatever it is and the speculation will no longer matter.

It matters for the gun and sniper experts on 2+2 (of which everyone seems to be)

I’ll give him credit for this response

Maybe I’m not accounting for all varieties of motive, but I have a hard time imagining a military guy hating Charlie Kirk enough to publicly execute him

There’s a video online showing that Charlie was probably wearing body armor (thin plate) under his t shirt. Hit the top part and deflected upwards into his neck. Why no exit wound through back of neck. Also why entry wound was so visible, usually hard to see entry. Was a good break down.

It’s not as hard of a shot as most make it out to be. Not sure on distance. Have heard 200 yards and 375 feet.

ahem

https://youtu.be/yAZXLphZAdo?si=rr0f9pyw...

1:39:40

Joe Rogan says that Paul Pelosi being assaulted was the chickens coming home to roost.

Matt Walsh agrees.

Right after they spread a conspiracy theory that he wasn’t actually right wing.

I think anyone saying he deserved it for his rhetoric sucks, but where is the outrage over comments like this from Rogan and Matt Walsh? They have way more power than a random twitter user.

definitely not

apparently the super nazi faction of maga hated him, for a start
then there's the politically incoherent, which is probably the majority at this point. especially for military

and does it seem more likely that non-military ppl did this? seems doubtful

From Mehdi Hasan

Oh sorry. I’m not an expert. Yeah I meant anyone that goes and practices could do it. It doesn’t have to be some cia agent or whatever crazy conspiracies are out there. The guy that did the video seemed credible about knowing firearms and armor.

Ya but prove that MAGA is actually a proponent of political violence

he missed that both the attempts on orangeman last year were committed by maga/conservatives iirc. shame that their feelings don't care about facts...

Ya but prove MAGA is actually a proponent of political violence

Ya but prove that MAGA is actually a proponent of political violence

Ya but prove that MAGA is actually a proponent of political violence