The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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Don't be stupid. Everybody knows that Thomas should not have been in women's competitions or in women's changing rooms. And everybody knows why.
It's possible to have the discussion about at what level trans women should be allowed to compete in women's competitions without misgendering them.
Regardless your reply is entirely irrelevant to what the post you quoted was about. I was pointing out how lozen has a repeated habit of completely ignoring it when someone provides evidence that he is wrong about something which, whether or not you agree with him in general, he unequivocally did in both instances I mentioned.
My point in this case wasn't about what he said, it's about what you said. You claim that things are out of context but you never actually post the context to prove things are lies, you just say it's out of context with no proof. Yet when you doubt something someone has claimed and there is a literal clip of it posted in this thread you never even acknowledged it. Just like whe
It's possible to have the discussion about at what level trans women should be allowed to compete in women's competitions without misgendering them.Regardless your reply is entirely irrelevant to what the post you quoted was about. I was pointing out how lozen has a repeated habit of completely ignoring it when someone provides evidence that he is wrong about something which, w
Your correct I did misgender but I have been following the rules even though I do not think I need to . I still have not found any link to Charlie Kirk saying what you said he said other than a reuters article that misquotes on another thing he said
Should we force you to believe in God? Of course not so why should one be forced into believing in the trans ideology? I used to be one of the ones that said yes the odd person could be born in the wrong body but its become crazy were parents say they have two trans kids at 3-5 or a school assisting in a transition of a 12 year old without the parents knowing
Your correct I did misgender but I have been following the rules even though I do not think I need to . I still have not found any link to Charlie Kirk saying what you said he said other than a reuters article that misquotes on another thing he said
I literally quoted your original post asking for proof with the clip of him preaching in a church where he said it...
If you're going to ask for proof it's generally encouraged to actually read the thread to see if anyone replied before continuing to say nobody provided it.
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
Apparently they just shot Charlie Kirk. Just seems like a trend we see on here. People craft a hysterical narrative. People who are mentally unstable, unbalanced, and worse run with it. Step three is "punching a nazi" or killing baby Hitler is justified. Here we are
legitimately incredible work
I literally quoted your original post asking for proof with the clip of him preaching in a church where he said it...
If you're going to ask for proof it's generally encouraged to actually read the thread to see if anyone replied before continuing to say nobody provided it.
I actually went through 30 pages of threads looking for both and found the one were you quoted what I said Sadly I never found the link
I actually went through 30 pages of threads looking for both and found the one were you quoted what I said Sadly I never found the link
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I never said there was link to anything - the only thing in the post where I quoted you was a twitter post with the clip of him saying it. I'll quote it again for you now to make it easier:
Better yet they can take a day out of pride month on their own and volunteer to help their communities with the myriad of problems that are lowering life expectancy and quality of life that Trump, Kirk and Vance completely ignore because there's more money in scapegoating others than doing the difficult work of actually helping rurals live better lives,
That is the core problem. Like people like Ganstaman said many times( i miss him) the answers to all these trans problems are easily googleable if you put in the tiniest amount of effort. No one making these arguments wants to take that tiny amount of effort. Instead they want to talk about, excluding all major medical associations opinions and the opinions of trans people themselves what amounts to their own fantasies about trans people. And they want to have this conversation for years and years without any actual depth of understanding. Shallow discussion of trans rights is now a cultural element of poor white male culture.
That is the core problem. Like people like Ganstaman said many times( i miss him) the answers to all these trans problems are easily googleable if you put in the tiniest amount of effort. No one making these arguments wants to take that tiny amount of effort. Instead they want to talk about, excluding all major medical associations opinions and the opinions of trans people them
I personally know of two members of the LGB community that competed at the Crossfit games that say under no circumstances should men compete against woman or be in the locker rooms . Another great friend that competed as at high level in powerlifting say not a chance
So please cut the poor white male culture . Prominent athletes like Serena Williams and others say the exact same thing on competition. Of course the democrtas that say trust the science refuse to trust the science on it
Many in the LGB community would like to dump the qt alphabet crowd
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I never said there was link to anything - the only thing in the post where I quoted you was a twitter post with the clip of him saying it. I'll quote it again for you now to make it easier:
Thanks for posting that not sure how i missed it . I disagree with him but he is allowed to have his religious beliefs . He also says to treat all with kindness and not toss them off roofs
I personally know of two members of the LGB community that competed at the Crossfit games that say under no circumstances should men compete against woman or be in the locker rooms . Another great friend that competed as at high level in powerlifting say not a chance So please cut the poor white male culture . Prominent athletes like Serena Williams and others say the exact sam
and Im sure debating that perspective, which I have done many times, would be fun for most straight white males. Not good for them or their culture, incorrect, and tedious but fun.
The overall culture that has emerged in these pockets of debating trans issues is usually lgbtq exclusionary.
Your immediate reaction to seeing a chart, that was put out by a Republican member of the current administration, that distinctly shows Right Wing political violence is ~10x more than left wing violence over a 30+ year period, is to bring up BLM riots?
What is wrong with you?
Why can't you guys just say the truth?
I personally know of two members of the LGB community that competed at the Crossfit games that say under no circumstances should men compete against woman or be in the locker rooms . Another great friend that competed as at high level in powerlifting say not a chance So please cut the poor white male culture . Prominent athletes like Serena Williams and others say the exact sam
Yeah many in the LGB crowd have horrific PTSD from the multi decade fight they just won and don't want to deal with the reality of a bunch of low intelligence low knowledge morons targeting them for another multi decade fight over nonsense and would rather just not deal with it
Most qt people just want to live their life free of absolute drooling bigots who have a perversion for making their life worse. Like many of the weirdos who post here
Yeah many in the LGB crowd have horrific PTSD from the multi decade fight they just won and don't want to deal with the reality of a bunch of low intelligence low knowledge morons targeting them for another multi decade fight over nonsense and would rather just not deal with itMost qt people just want to live their life free of absolute drooling bigots who have a perversion for
Yes! In one of these threads , I wrote I’m almost self centered enough not to care about trans rights and this is what I meant. And this is coming from someone who(me) literally had childrens genital surgery.
Another thing is iq, and its very very apparent if you are in any way plugged into high gay culture, which doesnt mean extra gay but rather is a higher iq space. Gay men have the same variety of intelligence as straight men and these are the gay equivalents of trailer park rednecks. The gay men in those groups are people who are not very smart and often not very gay. they just care about being well received, getting some quality love, and sometimes pleasing their family.
Not very gay? Is that the same as not very black?
Your immediate reaction to seeing a chart, that was put out by a Republican member of the current administration, that distinctly shows Right Wing political violence is ~10x more than left wing violence over a 30+ year period, is to bring up BLM riots?
What is wrong with you?
Why can't you guys just say the truth?
The truth show that this year the left violence exceeds the right . Why is that ? Democrats rhetoric
Your immediate reaction to seeing a chart, that was put out by a Republican member of the current administration, that distinctly shows Right Wing political violence is ~10x more than left wing violence over a 30+ year period, is to bring up BLM riots?
What is wrong with you?
Why can't you guys just say the truth?
The truth shows that the previous 29 years right violence drastically exceeds the left. Why is that? Right-wing ideology being much more violent than left-wing.
This 100%.
lozen is a ****ing moron that refuses to take the L. Facts over feelings, people.
This is a point Lucium would normally bring up, but I guess I have to do it in his stead.
But the fbi generally counts white aryan (and only white aryan) prison violence as politically motivated domestic terrorism. And this is generally most of the “right wing” terrorism any given year.
I don’t know the methodology of that graph, but i wouldn’t be super surprised if the giant drop in “right wing” terrorism was trumps FBI changing the methodology and removing prison violence.
and the giant increase in left wing “domestic terrorism” being linked to “Palestine” protests/riots that were probably not being counted before.
I think the big takeaway is pre and post Trump FBI manufactured data for their own ends, and we shouldn’t read too much into such data, old or new, especially not knowing the methodology.
Did they add the 4 yesterday plus the other 8? shot?
This is a point Lucium would normally bring up, but I guess I have to do it in his stead. But the fbi generally counts white aryan (and only white aryan) prison violence as politically motivated domestic terrorism. And this is generally most of the “right wing” terrorism any given year. I don’t know the methodology of that graph, but i wouldn’t be s
The methodology is available here:
https://www.csis.org/analysis/left-wing-...
It was apparently compiled from various sources (I think the main source since 2012 seems to have been the Global Terrorism Database https://www.start.umd.edu/data-tools/GTD) but the compilation was done by a single team who used as their definition for terrorism:
WITT defined terrorism as the deliberate use or threat of premeditated violence
by nonstate actors with the intent to achieve political goals by creating a broad
psychological impact of fear or intimidation. For inclusion in the dataset,
incidents had to meet all parts of this definition.
I can't imagine prison violence meeting those definitions but similarly incidents at protests and riots are also explicitly excluded (including this year) unless there is a very clear motive from at least one specific perpetrator (e.g. Charlottesville car attack, Jan 6th).
Based on what I'm seeing of the methodology the availablity of data might have changed a bit over the years covered but what types of events are included (where the data is available) is probably quite consistent across both sides.
