The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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Its been obvious for a while you've become detached from reality and your relationship with politics unhealthy This response is just another sad example. My read is there's like a half dozen posters here that stand up to the left (far). None of them would react similarly to the response we see in Kirk's shooting, if it were AOC. I'm sorry but I just don't see the levels of hate
You are mad that I got access to mod records and could pull up the recorded racism from your original account
You wanted to separate yourself from that account by posting right wing nonsense as a centrist but that got blown up and now you are resentful
Its always the guys crying foul, like the regular poster here who got cited for creating an account named "Unwashed Tranny" who insists they don't dislike trans people
I'm not going to pretend like I don't know who you actually are and where you come from
Many of us remember Juan Valdez and his insistence that black peoples hormones make them emotionally highly strung and unbalanced.
When asked for evidence of this all we got was a link to a long Jordan Peterson video.
My father was a military trained sniper, he retired as a relatively high ranking officer. I’ve seen my father shoot his rifle many times.You’d be ****ing amazed.One that stands out to me is we had a rattlesnake in our yard once and our dog was attacking it. We called for our dad for help, and he emerged from the second story deck of our house with his rifle. The sna
I wasn't expressing skepticism about the accuracy of trained marksman. I was suggesting that a trained sniper wouldn't go for a neck shot on an exposed target, just as experienced hunters don't aim for neck arteries when hunting deer.
Unfortunately for you, many of those people probably watched his videos instead of reading someone else's take on Kirk in an online leftist echo-chamber. That's going to make it difficult for you to come across as anything but an ******* when you try to explain to them that they're idiots for believing things they saw with their own eyes.People who think the Trump administrati
Why are you ignoring 5 years of podcast content that is readily available on the internet?
Just because you don't like the way I talk doesn't mean you can pretend like there isn't thousands of hours of his content just spreading hate towards women, minorities, and lgbtq.
Like he literally advocated for stoning gay people to death
Maybe I just know his content better than you do?
I read somewhere that over a distance of 120 yards you have to aim three inches higher. Is that right? Is it possible the shooter didn’t know this?
Yes, of course.We don't know yet... but if I were laying odds at this point with the scant info we have, it leans towards ex military. That's a fkn hard shot to execute, especially one off. I think a good portion of well trained military could hit some part of that target from 200 yards, but a clean kill shot takes some higher degree of training. Utah Valley University spokespe
I read 200 feet and 200 yards a lot. The map someone published for the campus looks more like 70 meters to me (so i guess 200 feet). But it could be 200 yards.
I am not as good with guns as most of you guys are here (you have a better constitution than we do). But i suppose even 200 feet would make the shot hard enough to take with that precision? not sure.
Anyway i do tend to agree that it should be someone who trained more than a normal amateur did
Why are you ignoring 5 years of podcast content that is readily available on the internet?
Just because you don't like the way I talk doesn't mean you can pretend like there isn't thousands of hours of his content just spreading hate towards women, minorities, and lgbtq.
Like he literally advocated for stoning gay people to death
Maybe I just know his content better than you do?
did he literally, in content you personally saw, heard or read, or did you get that from some leftist person claiming that?
Yes, of course.
We don't know yet... but if I were laying odds at this point with the scant info we have, it leans towards ex military. That's a fkn hard shot to execute, especially one off.
Edit - looks like it was ~200 yards away.
Utah Valley University spokesperson: shot came from Losee Center building about 200 yards away.
No, it's not.
A week into basic military training you're going to be hitting targets 500 yards away with just iron sights. For a rifle enthusiast, hitting a 4 inch target from 200yds is trivial at the range, and how well you execute in a live exercise depends more on your body control than your rifle skills. Also, there's no chance they were actually aiming for his neck. The shooter missed their intended target in the luckiest way possible.
No, it's not.A week into basic military training you're going to be hitting targets 500 yards away with just iron sights. For a rifle enthusiast, hitting a 4 inch target from 200yds is trivial at the range, and how well you execute in a live exercise depends more on your body control than your rifle skills. Also, there's no chance they were actually aiming for his neck. The
No ,they are trained to hit ~300 yards away. And that's just hit a target.
Military rifle training: U.S. Army and Marine Corps qualification ranges go out to 300 meters (≈328 yards). Soldiers are expected to hit man-sized silhouettes at that distance with iron sights or basic optics.
Hitting a target is much different than nailing the head or neck w/ one shot. My only point is, he clearly has some training.
btw did i get it right, and the gun used is an incredibly common gun so no proposed democrat gun control legislation would have changed easy availibility of that gun? and that's why talk of gun control didn't go crazy this time?
The take of Kirk being a spirited debater who spoke to everyone as equals seems such a common one in my feeds and I fear a lot of the people that it comes from genuinely believe it
Unfortunately for you, many of those people probably watched his videos instead of reading someone else's take on Kirk in an online leftist echo-chamber. That's going to make it difficult for you to
Coordi has already expressed a better post than I would to you, but I'll add that the two of us will see the same thing and perceive things very differently. We likely have different perceptions of words like hate, violence and incite to name a few key words
Don't know how you could possibly assume that I am in an online leftist echo-chamber. My x feed is likely as riddled with slop as yours and I'm a live poker player. There is much more right wing influence coming to me than left
btw did i get it right, and the gun used is an incredibly common gun so no proposed democrat gun control legislation would have changed easy availibility of that gun? and that's why talk of gun control didn't go crazy this time?
That's not true. It's not just about the type of gun, it's about the ease of access, closing gun ownership loopholes, etc... restricting guns as much as possible to responsible, mentally stable, nonviolent, gun owners.
that you think that covid mitigation policies were unacceptable despite being constitutional (when done appropriately) due to the fact that public health orders tend to be permitted by some standard of scrutiny. This specifically is regarding vaccine mandates, mask mandates, and lockdowns.
We can discuss whether the policies were bad, but I seem to recall you saying many times that anything constitutional needs to be permitted
Ok so apparently (source in italian) , italian master trolls (people who have a troll circle that usually, at most, manage to trend some very silly stuff on italian twitter) convicned some MAGA people that the killer name was Gustavo Lafessa
https://www.lastampa.it/esteri/2025/09/1...
problem is this is like The simpson phone call to the bar with the name that means something else.
Gustavo is italian for Gustaf, but it also mean "i was enjoying" or "i tasted" . Fessa is (obsolete) old southern italian for pussy.
So the name sounds like "i tasted pussy" would in some archaic expression.
that you think that covid mitigation policies were unacceptable despite being constitutional (when done appropriately) due to the fact that public health orders tend to be permitted by some standard of scrutiny. This specifically is regarding vaccine mandates, mask mandates, and lockdowns.We can discuss whether the policies were bad, but I seem to recall you saying many times t
No i think lying as public experts in order to be able to sell potentially legal freedom limitations should be an exceptionally serious crime. Or at the very least the most basic example of complete dereliction of duty if your role is to advise as an expert on a topic.
Aside for the fact that some covid restrictions were found in violation of state or the federal constitution (and no1 paid for that), and the Biden admin attempt to use OSHA to mandate the vax to almost 100m americans was found unconstitutional as well, we had "experts" lying to the public.
They lied about vax efficacy, they lied about mask efficacy, they lied about lockdown efficacy.
I am not actually sure that lockdowns without the expert lies would have been constitutional. Because it's one thing to believe that it is constitutional to mandate something that works, another to mandate severe freedom limitations without any proof at all that they work enough to justify the violent civil liberty restrictions. And experts lied repeatedly to provide cover for the mandates.
Now in my perfect world that would beget the death penalty, but i would be ok with the severance from civil society forever i outlined above
Many of us remember Juan Valdez and his insistence that black peoples hormones make them emotionally highly strung and unbalanced.
When asked for evidence of this all we got was a link to a long Jordan Peterson video.
I always felt like juan's thought processes were relatively easy to understand. The logic went something like this:
"1. I am a good person.
2. Good people don't believe abhorrent things.
3. Therefore anyone who thinks one or more of my beliefs is abhorrent must be wrong or criticizing me in bad faith."
In fairness to juan, a lot people at various points on the political spectrum think in exactly the same way.
Newly released photo. What’s the shirt?
I don't think he actually advocated that American law should echo what it says in Leviticus, but clearly his commendation in principle of the beliefs of those crazy Bronze Age goat****ers, or rather of their priestly caste, was regressive and unpleasant. (And of course he didn't commend the death penalty for wearing a polycotton shirt, although the Bible very much does take that view of people who wear mixed fibres. And he didn't commend the death penalty for eating shrimp, and we all know what the Bible says about that. Death for wearing polycotton or eating shrimp might have been unpopular with his audience. So it was just the gay thing he went Bronze Age on. For some reason.)
It's also very telling that you lump me in with purple haired people when I've expressed such a lukewarm take
