President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
There used to be a time when even the neurotics on the left thought we should be going after the businesses who employ illegals. What changed?Something that isn't being talked about is the deterrence that now exists for these people to come to this country. The border invasion has been crushed. You don't hear about caravans of migrants headed this way. How many people died on t
I had a friend who got a job working for the Border Patrol around 25 years ago, and he was sent to Spanish classes as part of his job. I don't know if that's still required, but I'm sure many agents do speak Spanish and it would certainly make sense to have at least one Spanish speaker in each group of agents. It would be very easy to learn the limited vocabulary needed to tell people why they're being arrested.
I wonder what BJ and PB think about Trump claiming the Epstein files are a democratic hoax like Russia^3 and that they were written by Obama after he campaigned on releasing them.
That's news to me, is this true? The only person running for election nice ever heard mentioning them is Trump.
That's news to me, is this true? The only person running for election nice ever heard mentioning them is Trump.
That's what I was referring to. Trump claimed it was a hoax after he campaigned on releasing them.
I am also surprised democrat-led states want the DoE to do stuff. Everything the DoE does in their state, they can do themselves. Why do they insist of being able to have an agency that forces Missouri or Texas to do stuff about education in general? Californians can get every student loan the californian state is willing to provide them with californian taxes, and everything e
At least part of the reason is that many Republican state leaders don't really want to educate people in their state, but teach them nonsensical religious ideas. I don't want children in the south being taught that evolution isn't real and the earth was created a few thousand years ago.
Vastly different educational programs will lead to even more division in the country. It will weaken the nation as a whole and make it more likely to result in another civil war.
Surely as an avowed atheist you don't think it is a good idea for children in half the country to be learning ancient superstition instead of actual useful knowledge?
Because we don’t want Texas kids to be functionally ******ed other than being able to recite the lord’s prayer. lmao
A slightly more succinct version of what I just posted!
At least part of the reason is that many Republican state leaders don't really want to educate people in their state, but teach them nonsensical religious ideas. I don't want children in the south being taught that evolution isn't real and the earth was created a few thousand years ago.Vastly different educational programs will lead to even more division in the country. It wil
If there are violations of the federal constitution, courts can intervene, or the federal government (see troops send to desegregate schools). To block them though. That's all they should be allowed to do.
Courts did block teaching of creationism in public schools more than once. Landmark cases like Epperson v. Arkansas (1968) and Edwards v. Aguillard (1987). Using public funds to religiously indoctrinate violates the federal constitution. So courts can intervene and impede that.
Notice how that has nothing to do with executive power specifically though, or with the need of an unconstitutional federal agency dedicated to education, a power that isn't expressily and traspaerntly given to the federal government in the constitution and as such, stays ENTIRELY with the states, per the 10a.
Sending troops to desegregate didn't require the DoE to exist either.
There are many other ideas though that can't be linked specifically to religion in a way creationism can, and that are bad, but which states can fund the teaching of, being their sole, sovereign prerogative. With their own money ofc.
That's what it means to have a federation. Some powers stay with the states and people in other states have to accept that they can be used in ways they find horrific, and still should be allowed to happen.
Amazingly well-written satire, or genuine news article from 2026 inadvertently sent back in time?
Because we don’t want Texas kids to be functionally ******ed other than being able to recite the lord’s prayer. lmao
Any objection other than the religious one, which is already covered by SCOTUS and has nothing at all in the slightest to do with the DoE?
Why do you want texans to be able to get taxpayers-guaranteed loans for fat studies, if the texan state government doesn't find it reasonable for example?
Any objection other than the religious one, which is already covered by SCOTUS and has nothing at all in the slightest to do with the DoE?
Why do you want texans to be able to get taxpayers-guaranteed loans for fat studies, if the texan state government doesn't find it reasonable for example?
I didn’t give a religious objection, I gave a quality objection. And loans for fat studies are probably not the primary role of the DoE lol
Anyway the coverage was significant, i got like 6 pings about that (all celebratory ofc, give what my side thinks of the DoE, an aberration which is absolutely unconstitutional and should never have existed, the federal government should be barred to have any role in education, which is a strictly state and county matter).
How exactly is the mere existence of the Department of Education unconstitutional?
Can a state from USA become independent and stop be a part of USA, as easily as a european state can stop be a part of Eu union?
I'm pretty sure these are vastly different worlds that in your mind are the same.
holy god just when I thought he couldn't get any dumber
Any time people say "well luciom isn't dumb, he just has terrible values" or whatever, I marvel.
It's the being dumb that leads to the terrible values.
Guy's, he's dumb.
The doe doesn't control anything to do with actual education, that's all handled at state and local levels. Establishing schools, developing curricula, setting requirements for academic progression and graduation, choosing books and materials, determining academic standards, setting licensing requirements for teachers and other educational staff, etc. (which is why the stupid 10th amendment argument fails).
The doe basically just funds all of that. Saying it's unconstitutional is just pure ignorance of what the doe actually DOES.
Eliminating it would CRIPPLE funding for education in this country. Also, fun fact, I just completed my certification requirements to teach science in k12 so that I don't have to have a certified teacher with me whenever I do my 6 week course from now on. I've been thinking about a career change because of this RFK nonsense and who knows about the future.
for some things American states are more "centralized", for others they are less centralized than in the eurozone.
biggest difference is perhaps defense (very centralized in the USA), and state budgets (much freer in the USA).
in the eurozone we have to ask for European permission to pass a country budget lol.
education is not an express power of the federal government, listed explicitly.
the general welfare clause abuses are infinite ofc, but those words like Madison explained very well just meant that the federal gvmnt could tax to accomplish his specific roles listed elsewhere, not generic stuff.
in any case of doubt the 10a applies and everything is solely the purvey of states unless very explicitly stated otherwise.
you know that part of the constitution where they list stuff including a navy, the post office and so on? everything not there cannot be done by the federal government.
not only is the DoE unconstitutional (blatant violation of the 10a), but so is any law passed by Congress that deals with education, with the sole exceptions of applications of the 14a
for some things American states are more "centralized", for others they are less centralized than in the eurozone.
biggest difference is perhaps defense (very centralized in the USA), and state budgets (much freer in the USA).
in the eurozone we have to ask for European permission to pass a country budget lol.
Aight now I know you are demented.
Can a state from USA become independent and stop be a part of USA, as easily as a european state can stop be a part of Eu union
I'm pretty sure these are vastly different worlds that in your mind are the same.
not being able to exit is important, but so is being able to decide if you want a sales tax or not.
and in the eurozone we can't decide lol. we are federally mandated to have a VAT, very limited in what we can exempt, and with minum rates and so on.
death penalty is always banned federally unlike the USA.
we are bombarded by "directives" that force states to legislate on topics according to EU wishes every year and failing to do so to their satisfaction means sanctions.
I am also surprised democrat-led states want the DoE to do stuff. Everything the DoE does in their state, they can do themselves. Why do they insist of being able to have an agency that forces Missouri or Texas to do stuff about education in general? Californians can get every student loan the californian state is willing to provide them with californian taxes, and everything e
Basically what CRD said
Setting a minimum expectation for education is a good thing. We know its a good thing because no child left behind lowered the expectation to nothing and its been a disaster.
Having Oklahoma teach its kids theocracy instead of algebra will **** Oklahoma over pretty hard while it still counts as a state along with all the other states. Then if Oklahoma is ****ed over even worse then its just more that the other states will have to support it.
Now multiply this by 20
I know you are a troll but fiscal powers are the essential powers of a sovereign and a requirement for all state functions, delegating them is the most subservient move toward a centralized power a sovereign can do bar none.
that American states are able to set their budgets without federal intrusion makes the USA a looser union than the EU
Basically what CRD saidSetting a minimum expectation for education is a good thing. We know its a good thing because no child left behind lowered the expectation to nothing and its been a disaster.Having Oklahoma teach its kids theocracy instead of algebra will **** Oklahoma over pretty hard while it still counts as a state along with all the other states. Then if Oklahoma is
Oklahoma has one of the dumbest mfers on the planet as state superintendent right now. If they aren't #50 in education right now, they will be soon.
Basically what CRD saidSetting a minimum expectation for education is a good thing. We know its a good thing because no child left behind lowered the expectation to nothing and its been a disaster.Having Oklahoma teach its kids theocracy instead of algebra will **** Oklahoma over pretty hard while it still counts as a state along with all the other states. Then if Oklahoma is
again religious teaching with public money has been impeded by courts.
and btw others states only have to support it because you voted for federal redistribution which is a thing that shouldn't exist at all, it's your choice, just repeal all form of federal welfare, they are all unconstitutional anyway
I know you are a troll but fiscal powers are the essential powers of a sovereign and a requirement for all state functions, delegating them is the most subservient move toward a centralized power a sovereign can do bar none.
that American states are able to set their budgets without federal intrusion makes the USA a looser union than the EU
And yet there is so major talk about you being a troll. who knows....
All I'm saying is American states are closer to bologna to Italy than Italy to EU.
