President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
It’s a fair line of inquiry. I would say there’s a big difference between not spending money that could be used elsewhere and redirecting funds that were already approved and being used for a certain purpose.Let’s say you decide as a country you want to use x amount of money to save y lives, by whatever methodology. By making the choice to stop using x money after already alloc
If it is so efficient why can't their own government do it? or any of the many liberal foundations? why aren't you criticizing Bezos ex-wife for donating billions to pro-abortion campaigns and LGBTQ stuff when that literally means letting millions of africans die?
No this is a known fallacy, a variant of the "sunk cost fallacy". Same as if you hold an investment you wouldn't buy if you didn't own (imagine without tax considerations at play).It is literally identical rationally to refuse to spend for X, or redirect money away from X. If anything, it's even LESS DAMAGING to redirect money from X because other people can step up in your pla
Nah, you’re making a mistake between moral obligation and an action being morally supererogatory. Not everything that is good is a moral obligation. But if you do promise money towards something and then take it away, the act of promising the money could form a type of obligation.
If it is so efficient why can't their own government do it? or any of the many liberal foundations? why aren't you criticizing Bezos ex-wife for donating billions to pro-abortion campaigns and LGBTQ stuff when that literally means letting millions of africans die?
I haven’t looked into Bezos ex-wife spending. I’m sure that it’s possible she could donate to higher impact charities? I mean I don’t get what exactly the problem for my view is there.
Besides I made a very minimal claim, that elections have a high consequence, and it was to contrast chezlaw’s claim that 6 million vs 6.5 million dying is some crazy figure to be talking about, obscene to the point of being ridiculous. I pointed out that millions live or die already based on the actions of US presidents. That much should be very obvious and has nothing to do with this normative ethical debate we’re having.
List they claimed to have for ages now officially doesn't exist. [URL="https://abcnews.go.com/US/doj-fbi-review-finds-jeffrey-epstein-client-list/story?id=123526125"]DOJ, FBI review finds no Jeffrey Epstein 'client list,' confirms suicide: Memo [/URL]
It’s funny what Trump has done to the concept of literal reality in just a decade
I don’t give two shits about the Epstein files, but considering how trump has made every department of the government however big or small his propaganda arms, obviously a total absolution of Epstein by departments headed by far-right conspiracy theorists means nothing good was gonna come out of this for trump
The hilarity of it all is that the conspiracy theorists who won’t let this **** go will insist gates, Clinton, (insert random liberal) are on this list while also saying trump can’t possibly be on this list cuz his fbi and doj insist there is no list
lol it’s funny because this is specifically what Elon called out as him going “nuclear”, that Trump was on the Epstein files.
I’m of the belief that it’s probably true that there is no Epstein client list, and that he killed himself, but I’m not the one that claimed there was anything to it like Trump supporters did. It’ll be funny to see if they can absorb this hit just like they do all his other broken promises
I’m of the belief that it’s probably true that there is no Epstein client list, and that he killed himself,
lol
but I’m not the one that claimed there was anything to it like Trump supporters did.
*Trump supporters and Trump himself
lol it’s funny because this is specifically what Elon called out as him going “nuclear”, that Trump was on the Epstein files.I’m of the belief that it’s probably true that there is no Epstein client list, and that he killed himself, but I’m not the one that claimed there was anything to it like Trump supporters did. It’ll be funny to see if they can absorb this hit just like th
i'm pretty sure it will be absorbed, ignored and forgotten about pretty soon.
and even if there was no epstein client list, the constant touting and fanfare about it ahead of time is bonkers.
i posted in the other news thread, remember this moment:
This might be the first thing where sycophants actually put their foot down. This is a decade in the making. This isn't one of their run of the mill serials that they are releasing for the 24 hour new cycle, they frothed this soup for a long time.
But, likely nothing. Just one more bit of nonsense from the religion that served its purpose and leads nowhere
fwiw if there was an Epstein list wouldn't biden/wray/garland etc. know if there was one and easily be able to rebut this?
The people in that photo were on record saying, "This is just everything we already knew, but in a binder."
The conspiracy theory answer to your question is that Biden and Garland are on the list, so they wouldn't correct the Trump admin record here.
Essentially, everyone in power is a pedo because reasons. I think the kids refer to this as "projection" and we should really be turning our attention to those crying foul here, but I'm not an expert on celebrity-worship culture.
If Trump was implicated in an Epstein conspiracy they could have just railroaded his presidency.
I thought the official stance has always been there is no "list" as far as clear criminal implications
Trump’s entire Rd’E rests on the Epstein list & Obama’s birth certificate.
If Trump was implicated in an Epstein conspiracy they could have just railroaded his presidency.
I thought the official stance has always been there is no "list" as far as clear criminal implications
i thought it was more a list of 'these are the people that flew there', not necessarily implicating anyone for any wrongdoing.
I thought they found the list on Hunter's laptop.
lol it’s funny because this is specifically what Elon called out as him going “nuclear”, that Trump was on the Epstein files.I’m of the belief that it’s probably true that there is no Epstein client list, and that he killed himself, but I’m not the one that claimed there was anything to it like Trump supporters did. It’ll be funny to see if they can absorb this hit just like th
They are up in arms they want the head of Bondi, Patel y Bongino on a spike.. Is funny tho that they cant look a lil bit upwards.
To the extent this is newsworthy and actually important it’s Bondi 5 months ago acknowledging a list on Fox News saying ‘it’s on my desk right now’
So either she was knowingly lying then to rile up the base in which case nothing short of her immediate resignation and investigation is acceptable
Or she’s knowingly lying now as a coverup to pacify trump in which case nothing short of her immediate resignation and investigation is acceptable
Nothing will happen, of course
Or the most likely option: A stack of **** related to Epstein was on her desk and she hadn't actually looked at it yet but made some assumptions in an unscripted moment on camera.
Source: I made it the **** up after having been a desk jockey for several decades and had similar things happen to me personally.
Envelope from Wisconsin DWD? Probably just another unemployment report. Open it a few weeks later: Oh, ****, it was a wage attachment for the new guy.
Oops. I'll get right on that.
i thought it was more a list of 'these are the people that flew there', not necessarily implicating anyone for any wrongdoing.
Yeah thats how I've always taken it
Trump for his part always seemed reluctant to go down that particular rabbithole.
And I don’t know what’s lol about it. I don’t remember ever reading any good evidence that a list existed and that he didn’t kill himself. it was mostly speculation.
The are court files we have been knowing about forever that listed a ton of people who interacted sometimes with Eipstein including Trump. Nothing criminal not tangentially criminal, Epstein was a jet setter who often offered his jet to other famous people to network with them.
Now for the suicide, we don't have proof of the suicide because cameras broke down for a few hours exactly when Epstein died (two separate cameras lol).
His cellmate had just been removed with no replacement (incredibly rare apparently), and IMAGINE THIS the guards tasked to monitor him 24/7 (both of them) were asleep.
This is so outrageously ridiculous to believe just happened randomly tbh that the "he didn't kill himself" is kinda the only workable H0.
example #1287645892 of how ****ing stupid MAGA'Ts are and how little the opportunists like dumb**** cryponuts give a **** about any damage done to the country in general...as long as they get theres...
The are court files we have been knowing about forever that listed a ton of people who interacted sometimes with Eipstein including Trump. Nothing criminal not tangentially criminal, Epstein was a jet setter who often offered his jet to other famous people to network with them.Now for the suicide, we don't have proof of the suicide because cameras broke down for a few hours exa
My H0 is that most people reported as suicide on an autopsy are indeed people who commit suicide. I’d actually have to see the list of unusual things that happened with a percentage chance of them happening to see what the posterior probability is
From “90 deals in 90 days” to begging countries to call you as your own timeline is expiring…truly pathetic stuff.
Let’s just alienate all of our historic allies that we will need in our rivalry against China, especially those that are technologically advanced enough to help us build the infrastructure we need for AGI.
