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President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by jalfrezi

Doing well? Black voters who the Dems had assumed would vote for her didn’t, probably because black men don't care much for black women, and certainly don't want them in any positions of power. Of course that’s all the fault of the stupid black people for not doing what their white liberal superiors expected them to do.

FYP


by Luciom

Btw the point is that under the AEA, *if it can be applied with the president claiming there is an invasion*, Trump can deport any non citizen without having to prove anything to anyone.

Unsurprisingly, this bullshit argument got rejected by a federal court in Texas today. The judge was a Trump appointee.

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by Victor

lol

The best part about it, Victory, is that it underdetermines the argument for Kamala. Even if you take away that part of the argument, the sufficient conditions for voting for her are still there.


by chillrob

Long term societal changes sound great. But that doesn't keep murderers off the streets for now.

Sure and in any case I dont believe in anything utopian


by chillrob

This is such a ridiculous take. If they stopped the war in the only manner they could have, by completely dropping support for Israel, the Republicans would have eaten them alive. Trump was encouraging Israel to kill more Palestinians. No one voted for Trump because they wanted fewer dead Palestinians; even idiots knew that wasn't a thing that would happen. Trump wants all

Biden wanted the same thing. they just had different approaches. to steal an analogy from a very smart person, do you prefer the good cop or the bad cop?

and what you are missing is that Kamala got a ton fewer votes than Biden. people didnt largely switch votes from Dems in 2020 to Trump in 2024. they stayed home. and there were plenty of reasons for it, but I think the major reason, and polls agree, was the Democrat enacted Gaza genocide. it turns out that regular people dont like seeing murdered babies all day in 4k.


by Victor

Biden wanted the same thing. they just had different approaches. to steal an analogy from a very smart person, do you prefer the good cop or the bad cop?and what you are missing is that Kamala got a ton fewer votes than Biden. people didnt largely switch votes from Dems in 2020 to Trump in 2024. they stayed home. and there were plenty of reasons for it, but I think the maj

I would disagree about that being a major reason based on what I have gathered from various news and discussions, but I admit I haven't seen any polling regarding that.


Voter apathy was the whole point of politicizing the conflict and trump was the desired end goal. Congratulations, you got played


by chillrob

I would disagree about that being a major reason based on what I have gathered from various news and discussions, but I admit I haven't seen any polling regarding that.

right well thats bc the mainstream media supports Dems and supports genocide.

poll: https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postel...

and write up:

heres the campaign ignoring the problem and hoping it would go away.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-...



by coordi

Voter apathy was the whole point of politicizing the conflict and trump was the desired end goal. Congratulations, you got played

oh right, the conflict just then got "politicized" for cynical reasons.

but there are other reasons too. like dont pal around with the Cheneys and promise to be "tougher than Trump" on Iran. dont try to pass virtually the same immigration bill as the Repubs went for a few years earlier and then cry about it. dont sell out trans people like Kamala did in the video Ive linked multiple times. also, does anyone remember when Kamala was an advocate for medicare for all?

if you want Democrats to vote for you, dont act like Republicans.


by chillrob

I'm actually in favor of punishing parents for things their children do. I can see the reasons for the stereotype, but I'm going to have to say that the stereotypes in quotes are very unlikely to be true about an actual black person who is a prosecutor.

I guess I can keep reading past your first sentence?

I'm speaking to the type of voter Kamala is appealing to by getting into politics via running for DA. Man do you just like ignore anything from my post that you can't nick pick? She's positioned herself as center-right for the California spectrum. Prosecutors represent the enforcement of the status quo. It's a conservative position and that's why many Democrats scoffed at her political path. The base of the party wants to feel like rebellious change agents, not like they are protecting cops after they shoot a little black kid 42 times because he play pointed a pencil like a gun at the wrong moment.


by Victor

heres the campaign ignoring the problem and hoping it would go away.

did anyone go and compare the "no response" rate to previous elections to find out what the number was?


by Deuces McKracken

I guess I can keep reading past your first sentence?I'm speaking to the type of voter Kamala is appealing to by getting into politics via running for DA. Man do you just like ignore anything from my post that you can't nick pick? She's positioned herself as center-right for the California spectrum. Prosecutors represent the enforcement of the status quo. It's a conservative pos

I don't consider it nitpicking to deny that a black person is a representative of the type of person who is scared of other black people.

Anyway, Kamala didn't win the election because she is a she. Of course there are other reasons the wasn't an ideal candidate, but I'm sure that was the most important reason.
Same as for Hillary Clinton in 2016.


by chillrob

I don't consider it nitpicking to deny that a black person is a representative of the type of person who is scared of other black people.

Anyway, Kamala didn't win the election because she is a she. Of course there are other reasons the wasn't an ideal candidate, but I'm sure that was the most important reason.

Same as for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

Over 50% of G20 countries have had a female as supreme leader. Just can't happen in America because land of the free?


by Victor

right well thats bc the mainstream media supports Dems and supports genocide.poll: https://www.imeupolicyproject.org/postel...and write up:

heres the campaign ignoring the problem and hoping it would go away.

I'm starting to look over this poll, but its accuracy is going to be tough for me to have faith in when, in the very first section, polling people who voted for Biden in 2020, 1% of respondents said they had never heard of Joe Biden, while absolutely everyone had heard of Ruben Gallego, Jacky Rosen, and Tammy Baldwin.


by chillrob

Anyway, Kamala didn't win the election because she is a she. Of course there are other reasons the wasn't an ideal candidate, but I'm sure that was the most important reason.
Same as for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

I don't think a healthy Biden takes down Trump in 2024 - but you could probably make a case that Kamala loses by more for reasons you stated. Biden was in the perfect spot in 2020 with his fresh charisma, and an extension of Obama, a covid disaster, 4 years of trump, an increase in mail in voting and he still barely won 3 of the needed swing states and was up against the worst possible gop contender in the history of the US elections.

Kamala lost because the country moved right since 2016. It's why that happened is what's so damn lol.


by d2_e4

Congratulations, Victor - I've seen you make several posts today and none of them have contained the word "genocide". You're making great progress!

According to the search function, since mid-September, Victor is averaging more than one post a day containing the word genocide.


yeah for sure man, the worst part of the holocaust was people complaining about it


by Rococo

According to the search function, since mid-September, Victor is averaging more than one post a day containing the word genocide.

Pretty surprised it's that low.


by chillrob

I don't consider it nitpicking to deny that a black person is a representative of the type of person who is scared of other black people.

Anyway, Kamala didn't win the election because she is a she. Of course there are other reasons the wasn't an ideal candidate, but I'm sure that was the most important reason.
Same as for Hillary Clinton in 2016.

You're trolling me but a lot of naive people do believe that. However, Kamala had a huge initial surge of support that her campaigned subsequently did everything to spurn. Unless you think people supported her, then down the line realized she is a woman, that is not why she lost. She lost because she's a drunken bozo bimbo douchebag who is transparently disconnected from any trace of morality or alignment with any national purpose.


I wasn't trolling you, and I don't think any significant number of people supported her when her candidacy began but didn't support her by the time the shortest modern presidential campaign was over.


Every time I hear Stephen "Goebbels at home" Miller talk the hair on the back of my neck raises


by Deuces McKracken

You're trolling me but a lot of naive people do believe that. However, Kamala had a huge initial surge of support that her campaigned subsequently did everything to spurn. Unless you think people supported her, then down the line realized she is a woman, that is not why she lost.

Sure, there was nothing motivating about listing her blather a bunch of contradictory talking points on CNN to an orchestrated crowd, programmed to clap and whistle at all the right moments.

But I don't think dems realize just how far behind they are and how much luck they had in 2020. I mean, you had ****ing Jo Jorgenson, just syphon off 1.8 million votes from wannabe right wing libertarians in 2020 amongst an already perfect setup for the dems.

I agree that having someone like Bernie who speaks with conviction and has a detailed roadmap of what he wants is a hell of a lot more influential than Kamala, but do you think it really would have moved the needle enough?


by Luciom

economically ok when running 6% deficit at 4% unemployment is in the bottom 1% of worldwide historic performances of any developed economy.You are supposed to have decent growth at close to no deficit at the top of the cycle (after years of record deficits), as a NORMAL occurrence, like if you are a vanilla 101 bureaucray with no imagination you should have 2-3% real GDP growth

And yet the best in the world that year …..


by Victor

my lack of vote was just as likely to get Kamala elected.and no, we have no way of knowing this. there are plenty of arguments to be made that Trump will be less harmful across the board than the Dems, mainly due to incompetence.all of this may be true, but its still illegal to sell a gun to someone who has asserted openly they intend to commit a murder with it. and its immor

Fair enough for you and this isn’t about who’s right or wrong but from my POV it was clear as day that the chance of trump being worst for the Palestinian was far more higher then the chance the slaughter would stop just because the US would stop selling weapons to Israel …

Again for me , many other countries beside the US love money more then world peace and so would have sell those weapons shrug .


by chillrob

I wasn't trolling you, and I don't think any significant number of people supported her when her candidacy began but didn't support her by the time the shortest modern presidential campaign was over.

You're just wrong on the facts. She closed a tremendous gap and was slightly ahead of Trump after Biden's campaign was dead. It was the type of effect you just don't see that often. I usually don't make these sort of statements, but I can't think of any athlete whose absence or presence could move a line as much as Kamala moved the line for the Dems initially. Biden was down to 5% and Kamala at one point was about 50% chance to win. In NFL odds that is about 14.5 points. Tom Brady at his most impactful wouldn't be worth that.

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