President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
The takeaway from last election was not to listen to radical leftists like yourself.
Tim Walz is not a radical leftists, he’s a sensible guy with a middle class background who enacted wildly popular social democratic policies in his state. He’s the exact type of person the Dems should embrace, competent leaders with a plan that get things done.
In trump's America you get like 2 dolls none of this 30 dolls whatever you want crap.
Fox would be on 24hr red alert if Obama said that lol
The takeaway from last election was not to listen to radical leftists like yourself.
right, keep kissing up to the Cheneys and promising more mass murder. keep giving record amounts of funding to the fascist police. and keep instituting Republic-lite immigration atrocities and see how far it gets you.
Tim Walz is not a radical leftists, he’s a sensible guy with a middle class background who enacted wildly popular social democratic policies in his state. He’s the exact type of person the Dems should embrace, competent leaders with a plan that get things done.
Isn't he the guy that visited the El Salvadorian prison and brought tampons for the inmates as the El Salvadorians denied them that right
The legal system is totally ****ed up and only benefits the wealthy and powerful while the poor get a third rate version of justice. Any discussions about which posts should or should not exist is meaningless. Do you want to have a meaningful discussion? I sense not but im happy to be wrong about that.
The takeaway from last election was not to listen to radical leftists like yourself.
Uh, guess I was right.
Ask yourself why people would vote for the candidate doing the Trump tribute act instead of the real thing. My god you’ve been so easily brainwashed.
right, keep kissing up to the Cheneys and promising more mass murder. keep giving record amounts of funding to the fascist police. and keep instituting Republic-lite immigration atrocities and see how far it gets you.
they would have won the elections fairly easily (at least for POTUS, Senate was much harder to get), if they had just secured the border in 2023 which was trivial to do (which is why even trump managed to do that in just a few weeks).
and securing the border completely isn't a right-wing policy, it's just the only possible moral option which should be available to everyone if it wasn't about having true enemies of the people in power.
The legal system is totally ****ed up and only benefits the wealthy and powerful while the poor get a third rate version of justice. Any discussions about which posts should or should not exist is meaningless. Do you want to have a meaningful discussion? I sense not but im happy to be wrong about that.
the poors gain a lot more if violent criminals are treated harshly by the state and kicked away in prison for as long as possible, as the poors live where violent criminals live unlike rich people.
and unlike rich people the poors can't afford gated communities, private guards, security cameras and so on.
You’re making the same mistake you always make with matters of law and order ie assuming theres a fixed pool of violent criminals and if only we could lock them up all the problems would go away.
Really poor thinking from an econ grad.
Economically OK after being handed a post-acute coivd economy is stellar compared to whatever it is Trump has been doing the last 3 months to set the economy aflame for no reason.
economically ok when running 6% deficit at 4% unemployment is in the bottom 1% of worldwide historic performances of any developed economy.
You are supposed to have decent growth at close to no deficit at the top of the cycle (after years of record deficits), as a NORMAL occurrence, like if you are a vanilla 101 bureaucray with no imagination you should have 2-3% real GDP growth with 2-3% deficit max at 4% unemployment.
which is say what Obama and Trump did 2015-2019. and if trump did it , it means it's the bottom low of the most basic expectations from anyone right?
that would be a slow growing, vanilla macro situation, if you are a very mediocre leader.
6% deficit with 2.5% real GDP growth at 4% unemployment (and inflation above target!!!!!!), like in 2024, is one of the worst performances we ever witnessed.
You’re making the same mistake you always make with matters of law and order ie assuming theres a fixed pool of violent criminals and if only we could lock them up all the problems would go away.
Really poor thinking from an econ grad.
no because my claim is objectively true (that kicking asses of criminals, putting them in jail and throwing the keys away help the poors more) even if meanwhile you are attempting stuff to reduce the number of criminals.
even if you reduce them by half because of your magic leftist policies, the remaining half will still live among the poor's so kicking them in the ass and locking them in jails for as long as possible will still benefit primarily the poors anyway.
unless you think jailing them creates criminals, which is radical leftist nonsense, and can't happen if you shoot them in the head anyway (or lock them up for 30+ years)
Of course jailing people creates more criminals. This isn’t even contentious. Take the drugs market for example. Lock up the dealers and more take their place becuase as things are a certain number will see the risk/reward as favourable compared to the life they have and will plug the gaps in the market. Plus a certain number learn about how to do crime better from being in jail surrounded by other criminals.
Very shortsighted.
Luciom, a lot of what you write is just bloodlust dressed up as politics, probably because of something bad in your background. You should talk to a professional because it’s neither natural nor healthy.
right, keep kissing up to the Cheneys and promising more mass murder. keep giving record amounts of funding to the fascist police. and keep instituting Republic-lite immigration atrocities and see how far it gets you.
Hot take, but national security, sensible immigration laws, and supporting our police who protect us from criminals is not fascism.
The legal system is totally ****ed up and only benefits the wealthy and powerful while the poor get a third rate version of justice. Any discussions about which posts should or should not exist is meaningless. Do you want to have a meaningful discussion? I sense not but im happy to be wrong about that.
I don’t think meaningful discussions start with braindead populist platitudes. I have plenty of ideas of what I want to see change in policing, including more civilian oversight, more transparency and body cameras, bail reform, civil asset forfeiture reform, increased funding to public defenders, etc… But that’s not as sexy as saying “abolish the police” so lefties tune it out.
Uh, guess I was right.
Ask yourself why people would vote for the candidate doing the Trump tribute act instead of the real thing. My god you’ve been so easily brainwashed.
I don’t think we have the same understanding of why Trump is horrible.
Before you construe this as me equating Trump and Harris let's be clear that he is a monster and she is just a lousy human being who was doing serviceable impressions of his greatest hits to win votes, which was doomed to failure because why would anyone vote for the warm up act when the real thing is due on?
Of course jailing people creates more criminals. This isn’t even contentious. Take the drugs market for example. Lock up the dealers and more take their place becuase as things are a certain number will see the risk/reward as favourable compared to the life they have and will plug the gaps in the market. Plus a certain number learn about how to do crime better from being in jai
lol drug dealing isn't violent crime.
I wrote violent crime.
if you give the dead penalty for rape and kill hundreds of them you don't end up with more rapists. same for bank robbers , street thugs and so on.
yes if you give 3 years to people who should be severed from civil society forever (like anyone assaulting others violently) that person could get back and do more crime. that's actually expected and that's why once they do a violent act that no sane person would ever do, you should just get rid of them permanently and everyone else (mostly the poors) would be better off.
it's btw morally atrocious to spend significant resources on the worst people in society, so even if by spending hundreds of thousands per criminal you could "recover" some of them you still shouldn't do it.
poors in El Salvador live better today with violent criminals mostly all locked up for indefinite time. and El Salvador should really just kill all those people in jail and be done with it.
and no that doesn't create more criminals
Before you construe this as me equating Trump and Harris let's be clear that he is a monster and she is just a lousy human being who was doing serviceable impressions of his greatest hits to win votes, which was doomed to failure because why would anyone vote for the warm up act when the real thing is due on?
Again, I don’t think we have the same understanding of why Trump is as bad as he is. Because if I say, “Trump has awful authoritarian tendencies, doesn’t respect the rule of law, and treats American institutions with disdain” you probably wouldn’t really care about any of that stuff and just think it would be based if Bernie did the same thing but for left-wing policies.
I mean yes, he is a racist, hates women, hates muslims, etc, (which Kamala doesn’t/isn’t), but these are the unique things which make him worse than many presidents before him who were objectively more racist and misogynist than him. He hates the process that makes America good and wants to treat the country like the president is the king.
I'm sure you can understand if you want to. You're not a potted plant.
You didn't point out that some would commit crime anyway. Even the potted plants know that You dismissed the approach of reducing crime with societal changes
Long term societal changes sound great. But that doesn't keep murderers off the streets for now.
Ultimately like all right wingers d2 doesn’t want to pay even a smidgeon more in tax on his large salary to make a better society.
Criminals are criminals because we are all horrible greedy ****s, justifying his own greed. The failed doctrine of Thatcherism.
If we could really change social conditions to prevent most crime, that would cost fewer tax dollars, not more.
There is certain cluster of traits associated with those who pursue the DA position. It's seen as a political stepping stone for ambitious types who want to cater to a certain white middle class suburban type which includes a mix of those who claim to be anti-racist but feel super uncomfortable around actual minorities and those who are
I'm actually in favor of punishing parents for things their children do. I can see the reasons for the stereotype, but I'm going to have to say that the stereotypes in quotes are very unlikely to be true about an actual black person who is a prosecutor.
You can't govern if you don't get elected, and the Democrats' campaign was incompetent. They failed to get Biden to stand down till too late, they failed to hold primaries and it's often been said that their eventual candidate Harris would not have succeeded in primaries because she obviously wasn't electable enough.And Biden's tenure was economically OK but hardly stellar. He
Huh? There were Democratic primaries, and they were contested pretty much the same as the Republicans were (ie very little).
Dems win if they just stop the war in Gaza. they preferred Trump and dead Palestinian babies than the presidency and no genocide. own it.
This is such a ridiculous take. If they stopped the war in the only manner they could have, by completely dropping support for Israel, the Republicans would have eaten them alive. Trump was encouraging Israel to kill more Palestinians. No one voted for Trump because they wanted fewer dead Palestinians; even idiots knew that wasn't a thing that would happen. Trump wants all the Palestinians gone from Gaza and it to be club med run by Americans.
