Moderation Questions

If anyone is acting in bad faith or being abusive, it is you and Mets. I can only extend myself so many times to the two of you while you spin this false narrative.

I’m glad we’ve cleared it up.

For the record, being a mod in here is probably the hardest volunteer job I know of online. So I do mean it, I appreciate that you took a swing,

Id love to hear ways that I may improve, which is why I initially reached out to you, but I assume you’re sticking to vague comments like the above?

on the new skin, but it comes with losing the ability to multiquote

I just use the default skin and can both like and multiquote.

yeah but dark > light

So your mom tells me.

Others in the thread have violated those rules constantly since I started reading this forum.

see that's unfair because everyone knows you don't have a mom, i'd just have to insult whichever couch you crawled out of

One of the Jewish people who doesn't post in that thread any more is microbet, who was accused by Mets of something like being a fake Jew for not being supportive enough of Israel's actions.

If anyone's been "chasing Jews away" it's him, but of course Mets' behaviour goes uncriticised by his team mates.

There's no anti-Semitism in that thread and not one person has anything against Jewish people. Some do have a big problem with the Israeli government and IDF, though.

I think I use what was the default skin 15-20 years ago. I was vaguely aware that liking posts was a thing these days but I don't see either the option or when other posts are liked with this skin (I do have multiquote though).

Jal, these are all examples of antisemitic behavior:

-Oct 7th was an inside job
-Posting fake photoshops of prisoners with bagels in their mouths
-Saying "Israel is like Sparta"
-Denying Israel should exist
-Saying the only Jewish self determined country in the world is chalked full of "psychotic, racist pieces of ****"

And now Meta is doing what a lot of sane online platforms are saying, and that's realizing the "Zionist" loophole. Over 4/5 Jews is a Zionist. Jews have a right to a homeland just as the Arabs have all of theirs. So the "I don't mean Jews I mean Zionists" loophole is starting to close in the places doing the job. https://transparency.meta.com/en-gb/Hate...

But in the end, Jews don't feel safe in that thread anymore. You don't have to tell us how we feel. We're just telling YOU how we feel. And you don't have to have an opinion on that. But I get that you're going to share it (so by all means).

It's a fair ask. Give me a few days and I'll PM you. The others can chime in in that time.

But in a nutshell I think somewhere along the way this became a bit more emotional than is ideal. In a place that stirs up emotions, which is the challenge of the ask.

complete distortion of reality

there have been multiple cases of long-time posters in good standing having their accounts summarily nuked from orbit bc they did the "bad" post in the wrong place at the wrong time. have no opinion on the most recent ban except to point out that Mets has been extended a degree of consideration that others, who have done far less, have not.

Sorry that's not how this works

Yeah and they got ban hammered constantly.

Oh but it's exactly how it works, and it's very tangential to holocaust denialism.

Would saying that some bombing in Moscow was an inside job be considered anti-Slavic?

Is saying 9/11 is an inside job anti-American?

There was a very loud group of people globally saying 9/11 was the Jews/Israel, they got advance notice, etc. THAT, was another example of antisemitism.

Lol

Is it your position that saying anything is an inside job anywhere is anti-Semitic?

i have no horse in this race, but you're arguing that anyone saying anything negative about israel or disagreeing with israel's version of events is anti-semitic and that's just saying "nobody who is jewish can ever be judged nor questioned"

When the world does what the world has done since before the death of Christ, which is "BLAME THE JEWS", yes that's antisemitism. That is exactly what that looks like.

Beyond that I have no opinions. I'm talking about a very specific thing this world has tended to do, and continues to do.

Instead of doubling down it would have been better if you tried walking it back some.

I don't think Rafiki is going as far as you are saying, but I can see why you think so. If one is part of an ethnic group that has historically been the target of intense hate, it can l become very easy to be overly sensitive to any criticism. Obviously not all criticism of Israel is antisemitic, but a lot of it is, and it can become easy to put it all in the same bucket.

I think the things that Rafiki is describing are clearly antisemitic. "Jews did 9/11" is obviously antisemitic, and I'm surprised that people are arguing otherwise. It is so obviously antisemitic that it is more of a joke on the Internet than something people take seriously.