Suitedjustice's Ongoing Mid-life Crisis

Off to CT today to take advantage of a few comp nights. After 2 hours of highway cruising, I'm 100% certain the stretch of 164 from 395 to 2 will provide me with this exact experience.

Waking up tomorrow and NOT driving to the office will make up for it, right?

Happy Easter!

Hi ScallyWagers! I've done that stretch many a time. There's some pretty country on it; but yeah, you'll run into some slowpokes out for a Sunday drive today, and there aren't too many places to pass, and just enough traffic to make it problematic.

Good luck and Happy Easter!

Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?
-George Carlin

Also, to be fair to the working folks during the week, nowadays a lot of their trucks have GPS trackers in them, and they'll be fired if they drive over the speed limit consistently. Plus, why be in a rush to get to the job site when they're only going to be put to work when they get there?

I can empathize, and it helps with the tilt of being behind them somewhat, but not enough.

GL!

Where would Hurley rank with 3 in 4? No worse than 5th, certainly?

He's a great coach; though not the most well-liked around the league. He got booed pretty roundly during the post-game interview on court. I'm not sure if it came from lingering Illinois fans or incoming Michigan and Arizona fans, or all of them. In any case, Michigan is going to be tough as hell. They've scored 90+ in all five of their tourney games.

We can discuss Hurley's legacy on Tuesday.

A short, breakevenish day at the ROI plant today. I should have ended the day down more than a hundo, if not for this disconcerting hand.

Four players limp and I check in the BB with A♥2♠. Effective stack will be the CO with around $182.

Pot ($10) - 5 players

Flop: A♦J♠2♣.

SB checks, I bet $10. Only the CO calls.

Pot ($30) - heads up

Turn: 7♥

I bet $20, CO calls.

Pot ($70) - heads up

River: A♣

I bet $50, CO calls.

Pot ($170) - heads up

I confidently turn over my boat, only to see the CO reveal A♠J♥ for the stone nuts.

I've seen CO around before; he's a reg. He's not very good, but he at least knows how to play the game, and he's been playing for a while. He had $100 left in his stack on the river with the stone nuts, after I'd bet large into him over 3 streets.

There is no play for him other than to shove over me on the river. At the very worst, I'm polarized. I'll either fold to a minclick or I'll find it nearly impossible to fold to another $100 in a $270 pot.

I mean, am I missing something here? I don't know the guy. He has no reason to be nice to me. To a third party, this must look like softplay and/or collusion. Just a very weird hand. I'm glad it happened, but damn.

Especially since V had last action on the river. In tournament poker, of course, he'd at least get a warning for not betting the nuts in position.

Was he drinking or anything else that might've led him to misread his hand? Any reaction when he exposed, as if he didn't realize what he had?

He thought he had AQ. When he turned it over, it had transformed into AJ. Gremlins. Next hand.

He was sober, and I agree that he must have misread his hand. golddog's tournament reference reminds me of my $1500 WSOP exit years ago. I flopped the nuts multiway in EP and checked; MP bet, then BTN raised. I shoved, MP folded and the BTN called and went runner runner, knocking me out of the tourney.

Standard beat, but as I was getting my stuff together to leave, one of the guys at the table pointed at me and said, "He checked the nuts, wouldn't that have been a penalty if he'd won the hand?"

A few of us patiently tried to explain that the rule only applies to a player who is last to act on the river, not first to act on the flop, but the tournament expert didn't deploy his ears and just kept running his mouth. And his inanities became the dwindling soundtrack of my tournament exit.

That was the closest I've come to berating someone at the table—not the player who knocked me out; that was fine, but the expert who wanted me penalized for a flop checkraise. It took a lot of effort, but I held off and kept walking.

biggest pot of my life was straddling utg and looking down at 55, gets about 5 callers before the button squeezes for like 20bb but we're 500bb effective (he's got me covered), i call because he's been all over the place and we're super deep and everyone folds

flop comes something like KJ5 rainbow

so we're looking at like 50bb in the pot

i check flop, he just rips it all in

i'm thinking there's no way KK or JJ do this, i'm thinking he probably has QT or some weirdly played AK or even KJ so i make what felt like a pretty easy call despite the insane spr

i call and flip over my hand, he's not showing his

A comes on the turn, so now I feel dead, like QT was probably his most likely holding, maybe even some AA mixed in but he shows zero emotion so now I'm thinking hey maybe i'm still good and it's just KJ or something

turn is 3, i am incredibly thankful, was sweating a Q or T coming on the river to give a 4 card straight out there, really any broadway at all was likely a disaster so i think that 3 is safe

dude still won't show his hand as the dealer makes the pot right, confirming he has me covered

finally the slow roll comes out, i lost to 42s

the pot was big enough i could have put a down payment on a house or bought a pretty nice car

i've always been pretty immune to big losses, but this one really did something to me

took about a week to really snap out of it - idk what to call it, but i have very few memories of the next several days and when I "came to" i was staying at a hotel in another city and when i went to check email i noticed that we'd both elected trump to his first term and i'd missed my own birthday

luckily this was a few years removed from my actual playing days and thus the fact i didn't really feel like playing any poker for a very long time after that was just fine - if this happened back when i depended on felt outcomes for a living it may have had a significantly worse outcome on my life

I didn’t realize this existed and now I need to watch this.

Something I think you’ll like and really should be on top of your list is F Is For Family on Netflix. It’s amazing.

oh wow i thought you meant ted lasso and figured "i've read enough of that post" 😀

will definitely go check out ted the show

No shyt, you have to be (to some degree) a sociopath to insist on insignificant details/rules when a player is standing up about to debut the tournament walk-of-shame and has been runner-runnered... 😊

I was actually warned once in a trivial spot for not reraising the nuts OOP when the river showed a 4 broadway str8 and I had bet and villain had raised IP and when it came back to me, I simply called, being 100% convinced and simply wanting to move on to the next hand asap. A know-it-all player complained, the dealer nonchalantly gave me a warning and we finally moved on to the next hand 🙄

As for my 2c, you have to give him a pretty tight range here to justify not 3betting. There are certainly players where you could go that route but based on your description that's not exactly the type. Also I find esp LLSNL players are often less positionally aware than you would think they are. They may make some minor adjustments between EP and LP but that's it pretty much. There are exceptions.

Yes, IME that works very well, I do that too, showing the occasional medium/big bluff is valuable when you have a tight image but even if you don't there's just something about it that some players can't comprehend very well, and they will play worse against you as a result.

Yeah the WSOP tends to be funny like that. Advertised as the crown of poker or something, but for some reason, maybe because of that, it tends to attract some of the worst players in history. I mean overall the average tournament player tends to be much worse than the average CG player IME, but esp at the effin WSOP you meet unbelievable players who are like, wtf is this guy doing, do they even know the rules? Ofc because of the high variance low BB tourney environment they still have a chance to do well, they are not as certain to be separated from their money pretty quickly as they would be in a cash game environment.

Good to see you back, Fire! Haven't heard from you in a while. I hope everything is going well.

I think the preflop was close, with the optimal play being the 3-bet; however, at this point in my career, I think there's more value in finding good spots against fish vs getting myself into tough 3-bet and 4-bet spots against very good regs.

I would argue hands like these are actually much tougher to play the way you did it, having to call (or fold) all streets with TPTK. If you just raised once pre or OTF you would define his range much better and it would be easier to play. That's just my approach anyways. If you get 4bet it would normally be a fold obv, if he can do that as a bluff good for him, but it's rare in 1/2.

I'll add it to the big list.

It's good, not 'pay extra' good but worth a look if you have Peacock or a pirate hat.

I have hands that still haunt me years later. I tell myself to knock it off and move on, but my brain will still dredge them up from time to time.

My next vacuum cleaner is going to stay standing up after I lean it on something, and not topple over like a drunken reprobate exactly four seconds later every goddamn time.

Preaching to the choir! Most complex hand of all time

You know you're looking at a classic BBV thread when you see that half the posters have been banned.

truer words have never been spoken

Obviously worried I had Aces

Another day at work. I played well and extracted chips steadily throughout 4 hours for a $192 profit.

The slot floor was lousy with advantage players, and I thought some uncharitable thoughts, one of them being "Have fun sucking on my exhaust fumes you Michael McDonald-looking mother****er." I made $68 over 4 hours on the slots.