5/10. QQ on low board in 4bet pot

Are you squeeze-or-fold preflop or do you have any calling range at all here - what do you do with JJ-TT?

I get that you think EP can be wideish here but despite the button call which throws things off a little, it's still EP vs BB so ranges are going to be tight. The presence of the button disincentivises EP to call your squeeze so maybe there are all JJ combos, but I'd be very surprised to see any pairs weaker than that.

I take the fold equity argument into account but this just feels like a fairly basic check-call situation and yeah sometimes an Ace or King will hit and we have to get out.

Most interesting decision seems to be what to do on the river if turn goes check-check, assuming two blank cards.

I am definitely on the nittier side for my game but my bb 3 bet range against an unknown would be relatively linear and something like JJ+, AQo+, KQss. I would sometimes include 1010 and 99 and also a small amount of suited connected spazz....9 10, 89 suited

I think if turn checks through and river is a lower card, I'm betting 40%ish to get a crying call from AK but calling a shove

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I shoved over his flop bet and he called. Board ran out and I won. He took 40 secs to call and was clearly conflicted and I honestly think he might have had AK

Not sure it's right though and that's why I posted.

I shoved because I thought it might be easier to get the stack from a dominated pair with a shove than calling and turn is most likely to go check check. And I knew I wasn't folding unless an A came.

I wasn't really considering getting value from AK (and maybe I didn't) but I'm ok with not giving AK two cards to draw to.

Still not sure what I did was right and think calling flop and then leading safe turns is probably the play.

What looks stronger though, calling flop and leading turn or just check raising flop where maybe I can have more bluffs?

In theory he's supposed to have Aces always here, a mix of Kings, AKs, AKo mixed and some A5s and maybe A4s. Jacks would be a terrible 4bet. It really sucks there's two 5s on the flop as he's got two combos of that you don't beat on top of the Kings and Aces.

I think it makes the most sense to call as I wouldn't expect AKo to 1. Double barrel brick turns PLUS 2. Have always 4bet PF. That's a lot to overlay.

You know your local player pool and your V better than we do. If you think he's got worse PP's in his range, I'd suggest you scrutinize your thinking across pre and post, because it seems conflicting to me.

If he has a wide 4B range, did you consider 5B'ing for value pre? If not, why not? Is the reasoning to let him value bet worse or bluff post? If that's the reasoning, does it make sense to raise flop?

If you believe he can A) 4B light, and also B) call a jam with worse, the logic seems consistent so far. But what about when he has AA/KK? Is there a better line we can take based on his range?

For your line to make sense, he has to call the jam with worse more than he folds, I'd think. He also has to have a fairly wide range with enough of those worse hands. And I'd think he has to slow down and check back worse on most turns when we call the flop.

I'm not sure how much it matters that he can sometimes check back turn, when we'll have around 0.5 SPR after we call flop. We can always lead jam river. If we can have bluffs in our river jam range, that would seem to help.

If he checks back turn with worse, but jams better, flatting flop would seem better, even if it means he gets two chances to spike an A or K. He gets to realize, but we get to protect our stack and lead river for value on brick run-outs. Seems like a fair trade to me.

It's hard for me to wrap my head around what you're doing here. I mostly play 1/3 with $500 or smaller effective stacks and 5BB opens. Most 4B's are just jams. It's always QQ+/AK when more than 150 BB's goes in. The players capable of 4B'ing light are few and far between. Usually QQ and AK are the light 4B's.

As for your question about which line looks stronger, again, I'm not sure it matters. If he has AK it's less likely you have AA/KK and more likely you have QQ-, and vice-versa.

You could take either line with your entire range and he'd still be weighing your range based more on card removal than your actions.

He's probably responding the same with his entire range. If he can't fold worse than QQ on the flop, he probably ain't folding it on a turn brick either.

I never really think this is a bad option at this SPR OOP with a hand that benefits from protection and is going to often stackoff anyway.

I did finally consult a sim, and it actually prefers to do this with the Qd than without lol, so good thing I caveated that I really never know how to predict the hand selection methods in these spots.

I'm confused: 5+10+25+25 = 65 ... Where's the other 30 from?

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You count your "call" toward the pot, and then what you "put on top" is the raise size relative to that pot. So calling the additional $15 makes the pot $80, so putting $120 on top (for $145 total) is R150.

You can think of it like a raise is calling someone's bet and then betting into them before the dealer's got a chance to deal a card or start a new round of betting.