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Moderation Questions

The last iteration of the moderation discussion thread was a complete disaster. Numerous attempts to keep it on topic fa

30 January 2024 at 05:27 AM
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by jalfrezi

That's a vast continent comprised of more than 50 countries. I'm not sure it makes sense to generalise about its peoples.

Having recently been to Japan and Laos, I would say those two countries have about as much in common as Ireland and Nigeria.


by jalfrezi

That's a vast continent comprised of more than 50 countries. I'm not sure it makes sense to generalise about its peoples.

Please give me the long list of Asian countries that were protesting covid lockdowns, intrusive contact tracing, etc....

Asian countries in general were much more compliant with govt covid policies.
Doesn't mean they liked it but as Rick was pointing out it led to better outcomes in the end.


by Rococo

Having recently been to Japan and Laos, I would say those two countries have about as much in common as Ireland and Nigeria.

Having been to both Ireland and Nigeria I can confirm that they have Guinness drinking in common, at least.


by 5 south

Please give me the long list of Asian countries that were protesting covid lockdowns, intrusive contact tracing, etc....

Asian countries in general were much more compliant with govt covid policies.
Doesn't mean they liked it but as Rick was pointing out it led to better outcomes in the end.

It's quite a leap from "didn't protest lockdowns" to "are obedient in nature".


by jalfrezi
by Rococo

Having recently been to Japan and Laos, I would say those two countries have about as much in common as Ireland and Nigeria.

Having been to both Ireland and Nigeria I can confirm that they have Guinness drinking in common, at least.

Plus there's lots of Nigerians im both countries! *comedic drum roll *
Nigerians drink the stronger Guinness extra though.


by jalfrezi
by 5 south

Please give me the long list of Asian countries that were protesting covid lockdowns, intrusive contact tracing, etc....

Asian countries in general were much more compliant with govt covid policies.
Doesn't mean they liked it but as Rick was pointing out it led to better outcomes in the end.

It's quite a leap from "didn't protest lockdowns" to "are obedient in nature".

Apologies, wouldn't be the first time I couldn't follow a conversation but I thought the point was Asia's/China's handling of covid. In short you said it was because of authoritarian rule and I think in general Asian country's populations are more compliant to their govt policies than Europe/NA. Obedient wasn't a great word to use but a better word didn't pop into my head in the 10sec of thought I gave it at the time, hence the (?). Now in general Asian countries have more authoritarian governments so it's not a coincidence but my point was more as societies not as "Asians are obedient" as a race or in nature. But look at South Korean tracing during covid. They had to install government apps on their phones so they could be traced if they were in contact with any positive cases. At the time the libs were saying oh, it's because they are so considerate of public health and their fellow citizens but really what choice did they have? But try that shit in Texas or Florida. At the end of the day the majority of people are going to do it but there is going to be a lot more hoopla around it than there was in S. Korea.
I know it's not a totally focused post but hope you get the gist.


by jalfrezi

Having been to both Ireland and Nigeria I can confirm that they have Guinness drinking in common, at least.

Also sectarian violence.


Also, "jalfrezi wuz 'ere" graffiti on a bunch of pub toilet walls.


by 5 south

But look at South Korean tracing during covid. They had to install government apps on their phones so they could be traced if they were in contact with any positive cases. At the time the libs were saying oh, it's because they are so considerate of public health and their fellow citizens but really what choice did they have But try that **** in Texas or Florida. At the end of t

Yes I get it, no worries, though I don’t agree. Here in the UK we also had a Covid app on phones and a track and trace system to send alerts of proximity to known cases, and we are as suspicious of governments as anyone.

I think the difference with the US is largely anti vaccine propaganda from the far right. There’s nothing about America that says to me that Americans are less compliant than other nationalities and you can certainly argue that the flag shagging has reached almost epidemic levels itself.


by jalfrezi

Yes I get it, no worries, though I don’t agree. Here in the UK we also had a Covid app on phones and a track and trace system to send alerts of proximity to known cases, and we are as suspicious of governments as anyone. I think the difference with the US is largely anti vaccine propaganda from the far right. There’s nothing about America that says to me that Amer

it was just used as a political issue to rile up both bases. the Repubs cant support anything the Dems do, and vice versa. except slaughtering children overseas. both sides support that.


I've never been anywhere or dun anything but wasn't it different in a lot of Asia because of the SARS experience.


One thing about South East Asia perhaps we can all agree on is that masks in public were common enough not to draw attention long before covid. That's not a sign of compliance.

The compliant people here were the ones who mocked the mask wearers.


by jalfrezi

One thing about South East Asia perhaps we can all agree on is that masks in public were common enough not to draw attention long before covid. That's not a sign of compliance.

The compliant people here were the ones who mocked the mask wearers.

I was mocking them long before it was cool


by jalfrezi

One thing about South East Asia perhaps we can all agree on is that masks in public were common enough not to draw attention long before covid. That's not a sign of compliance.

The compliant people here were the ones who mocked the mask wearers.

Yes, masks were not worn a lot but not uncommon at all for someone to show up at work with one on as they felt like they may be getting a a little sick.
Antibiotics are also criminally over prescribed. Some superbug will come out of this region I'm sure due to everyone taking antibiotics for a sniffle and not finishing the course just adds to it.


by jalfrezi

That's a vast continent comprised of more than 50 countries. I'm not sure it makes sense to generalise about its peoples.

by jalfrezi

One thing about South East Asia perhaps we can all agree on is that masks in public were common enough not to draw attention long before covid. That's not a sign of compliance.

The compliant people here were the ones who mocked the mask wearers.

you can't make this up... lololololololol


You can’t read, that’s for sure.


Why did Deuces McKracken get a temp-ban?


I would guess the blatant racism of "typical sentiment of the breed" just glancing through his post history.


by jalfrezi

Yes, td is talking nonsense there. I have extended family in Shanghai and was monitoring the infection and death rates every day, noting very early on with alarm that mortalities were doubling every three days. If I, a lay person, was doing this back in January 2020 why weren't our governments?

Pandemics can spread exponentially, thus initial efforts are extremely critical. The initial weeks in Wuhan was pure incompetence combined with the typical authoritarian fare of protecting the government's reputation.

1. We know from the story of Li Weinlang that police threatened to arrest those who spoke openly about the virus.
2. We know the medical personnel in Wuhan were forbidden from wearing protective gear ea..., on the reason that it would "it would cause panic".
3. We know from the story of Fang Bin that Chinese citizens who reported on the outbreak in social media, were disappeared.
4. We know a lot of journalists who who reported on the outb...
5. We know the Chinese government would only as late as 20th January confirmed human-to-human transmission, but that it is likely that medical personnel knew of human-to-human transmission already in december the year before.

Consider that during the early stage of the outbreak, cases are doubling every few days, and it does not exactly take a genius to see that these actions might very likely have moved the needle from "outbreak" to "pandemic".

About the only debate left is whether the blame lies primarily in local government or with the Chinese government. However, in authoritarian states, reporting bad news up the chain can be ill-advised, because if your report can be construed as criticism of the party / state, you can be in for a very bad time. So even a poor local response and information flow can be a feature of the system, rather than a bug.

There is plenty to criticize western nations for in the Covid-19 response, but China's handling was a disaster.

It is also not the first time. We saw completely similar patterns during the Chinese handling of the 2002 SARS outbreak.


by Gorgonian

I would guess the blatant racism of "typical sentiment of the breed" just glancing through his post history.

he was referring to Zionist billionaire cannibal pedophiles.


by Victor

he was referring to Zionist billionaire cannibal pedophiles.

It's sweet that you two share such a close and intimate relationship that you can read each others' minds. If you keep going the way you are, you might get to finish his sentence, too.


right, its not that hard if you actually read someone's words and try to understand them.


by d2_e4

It's sweet that you two share such a close and intimate relationship that you can read each others' minds. If you keep going the way you are, you might get to finish his sentence, too.

You know, that famous "breed."


You're only allowed to say outrageously racist things about Arabs here, Deuces knew the rules.


by Trolly McTrollson

You're only allowed to say outrageously racist things about Arabs here, Deuces knew the rules.

That's odd. I have it on good authority - yours - that the mods here are fond of letting Nazis run free, so one would have thought it was the other way round.

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