Israel/Palestine thread

Israel/Palestine thread

Think this merits its own thread...

Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..

AM YISRAEL CHAI.

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07 October 2023 at 09:33 PM
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by 57 On Red

Don't know what that's about, but it’s reminiscent of the strange tale of the pizza-restaurant basement, where the restaurant in question had no basement.

its from the Epstein emails. they didnt even bother to talk in code like the Clintons did. they just straight up talked about raping, torturing, murdering, and eating children.


by IMBLUEtheONE

Unfortunately, most of you have no real idea of ​​what it means to live under threat.

I would say fortunately. It's a terrible thing to live under threat. Politics should aim to resolve it which means for both sides.

To say that you have a moral compass for such matters, based on a clinical view of reality, is not an argument IMO.

It's your moral compass that is tested when you live under feeling threatened and with a war mongering leader. It's very hard to resist and retain your moral copmpass so I have great sympathy with individuals. I'd agree that none of us who are untested should be too confident they would stick to their moral compass when it came to it. I very much hope I would stick to mine but even more I hope we will remain untested.

I reserve my condemnation for the corrupting leaders who exploit fear and put huge pressure on people's worse attributes. That is 'evil'. That is netanyahu and others.


by formula72

The total death count is almost certainly going to exceed 70k with bodies being found for years to come. Killings in wars like this is almost always undercounted early on.

No one said it wasn’t from what I see


by IMBLUEtheONE

The threat to Israel was not only from Gaza, but from the entire axis of resistance. Iran's plan was an all-out attack on Israel. Just because Sinwar did not coordinate the timing with the entire axis of resistance, the plan failed.

Ya right. Show your work.


by Victor

its from the Epstein emails. they didnt even bother to talk in code like the Clintons did. they just straight up talked about raping, torturing, murdering, and eating children.

Victor has gone full Qanon lol his favorite politician must be MTG


I remember that lancet paper being pretty successfully challenged in this thread with the posters touting it not having any strong rebuttals.


bruv I was full QAnon like 5 years ago. it was always obv true. the only fake part was the idiotic idea that Trump was going to stop it.


by 5 south

I remember that lancet paper being pretty successfully challenged in this thread with the posters touting it not having any strong rebuttals.

you dont remember ****.

the Lancet paper was pretty simple. it just said that if X amount of violent deaths occur during a war then historically the "excess deaths" is some multiplier. iirc it was a multiplier between like 1.5 and 15 or something. they took a conservative number (of like 3? or something) which is ofc rediculous bc the excess deaths in this genocide are going to be much higher than a typical war (like the Ukraine war for example) bc the Jewish Supremacists main goal was to kill as many civilians as possible.


by Victor

you dont remember ****. the Lancet paper was pretty simple. it just said that if X amount of violent deaths occur during a war then historically the "excess deaths" is some multiplier. iirc it was a multiplier between like 1.5 and 15 or something. they took a conservative number (of like 3? or something) which is ofc rediculous bc the excess deaths in this genocide are goi

Well if Hamas ever performed a census prior to 2023 it shouldn't be too hard to figure out if they're ever allowed to do a headcount again. It's not like there has been a mass exodus fleeing the war as no one is allowed out so should be pretty simple math.


by 57 On Red

Don't know what that's about, but it’s reminiscent of the strange tale of the pizza-restaurant basement, where the restaurant in question had no basement.

I googled it and the only references I could find were Elon's X, Facebook, Instagram and the Hindustan Times. Haven't seen anything in the msm covering it.


by Trolly McTrollson

Just flatly untrue, Lancet is widely regarded as a top journal and the fact that you have to cherry-pick to find these controversies from 10+ years ago proves it. You still haven't pointed to a single flaw in the study in question.Remember these guys spent years screeching about how Gaza health authorities are lying because they hate the Jews. Turns out the IDF actually agrees

I don't need to cherry pick your boys at Lancet have an entire wiki section highlighting their dubious claims on various issues, so try as I might, I just don't deem them a reliable credible non biased source


It's likely that mortality from all causes will have gone up during the war, but it may be difficult to put a figure on it.


by corpus vile

I googled it and the only references I could find were Elon's X, Facebook, Instagram and the Hindustan Times. Haven't seen anything in the msm covering it.

You never heard of pizzagate?




by Victor

Nobody sane regards neo nazis like Hanannia as reliable sources either vic, or care about what he rants or babbles.

by 5 south

You never heard of pizzagate?

Yeah, sorry I meant I googled vic's cannibalism claims re Epstein, I should have made that clearer, my bad.


by corpus vile

I don't need to cherry pick your boys at Lancet have an entire wiki section highlighting their dubious claims on various issues, so try as I might, I just don't deem them a reliable credible non biased source

So absolutely nothing after two years of blatant lies and holocaust denial. Cool.


by corpus vile

Yeah, sorry I meant I googled vic's cannibalism claims re Epstein, I should have made that clearer, my bad.

Ah, there is something in there about disemboweling a 3yo I think and consuming the feces from the intestine. Believe it was after George HW raped the kid but that's for another thread.


by Trolly McTrollson

So absolutely nothing after two years of blatant lies and holocaust denial. Cool.

If Victor is representing it correctly, it's an estimate based on historical data.
It is interesting that the people that vehemently disagree with it also seem to buy the story that Israel is at an unheard 2:1 civilian/soldier death ratio for urban combat which I think historical data will not support.
Kind of can't have it both ways.


by 5 south

Ah, there is something in there about disemboweling a 3yo I think and consuming the feces from the intestine. Believe it was after George HW raped the kid but that's for another thread.

corpus only believes things that come directly from Zionists or the mainstream media so you are wasting your time.


by Trolly McTrollson

So absolutely nothing after two years of blatant lies and holocaust denial. Cool.

Except an entire wiki section on how unreliable the lancet are. And now it's akin to The Holocaust? Your colours are showing, no matter how veiled and cute you think you're being.

by Victor

corpus only believes things that come directly from Zionists or the mainstream media so you are wasting your time.

Yeah the um, "zio matrix" must have gotten to msm who they control of course, to to make sure they don't report on it, so they can cover up The Horrible Truth and only the good people of Facebook and Instagram are able to expose them.

by 5 south

Ah, there is something in there about disemboweling a 3yo I think and consuming the feces from the intestine. Believe it was after George HW raped the kid but that's for another thread.

I'm quite sure Epstein was a pos sex trafficker and serial rapist. I doubt if he was a cannibal.
Lurid accounts of cannibalism, Satanic Ritual Abuse, faeces and urine consumption, child hunting parties etc perpetrated by shadowy and/or elite networks have been doing the rounds for decades now and always with precious little evidence to show for it. Same allegations were made about the Marc Dutroux case and others. I'll believe it when I see smoking gun proof. Otherwise nah.


you can literally read the actual emails corpus.


by Victor

you can literally read the actual emails corpus.

Doesn't mean the emails on these particular topics are true. Any mention of human sacrifices? Seeing as the kitchen sink appears to be thrown into the mix...
But as a point of curiosity can you link said emails and excerpts? As again I'm not getting any reliable sources when googling.


and if the NY Times reports on it then that doesnt make it true either.


by Victor

and if the NY Times reports on it then that doesnt make it true either.

Only thing from the NY Times I'm getting is from 2016 in an article entitled "dissecting the #pizzagate conspiracies."
Which talks of "false rumours "regarding Pizzzagate.

Here's the sources a google search turns up
https://www.google.com/search?q=epstein+...

I did find this though:

Fact check: False, no credible evidence to back the claim
The claims made in the online rumors are not true, as there is no credible evidence of Jeffrey Epstein eating babies or engaging in cannibalism.

Moreover, the Epstein files did not mention eating babies. Claims of cannibalism stem from unrelated conspiracy theories without evidence in the files.

So again can you link these emails and the ny times piece reporting on it? Or not?
Cuz currently I'm calling bullshit.


I never said the NYT reported on this.

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