President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
I don't understand the Greenland thing. I'm sure Denmark would let the US build whatever base they want on the island if they just asked before all this bs. Would be a good boost for the local economy.
Not great having a bunch of bored US soldiers around but I'm sure a deal could have easily been worked out.
They already have that right
This might possibly be true, but assuming, and posting, that ANYTHING this compulsive liar says is actually true is pathetic.
dawg, this is where the whole conversation about what he says started. my point forever was that he's not going to use force on greenland. end of point. libtard position is omg he's going to use force on greenland, and omg he said he's going to use force. look at what he says!!!!
1) he never said he's going to use force on greenland, but sure imply that as you will based on his statements.
2) if we don't care about ANYTHING he says, then stop using what he says to try to demonstrate that he's going to use force on greenland.
again, this is classic lib logic which i posted about before.
If Trump says (or implies) something that helps their narrative, it's ok to post that.
If Trump says something contrary to their narrative, then he can't be trusted, don't listen to what he says.
let's try to be a little consistent here.
its 90% ego trying to add greenland to the us map and artic claims but theirs certainly 10% probably from the guys pulling his strings to increase nato spending
Bolded is also irrelevant imo It's partly ego, partly a desire to exploit Greenland's wealth of rare earth minerals, and partly a desire to control shipping channels that are opening up because of global warming.
Your orange overlord has cut your networth by like 25% and you still think you are winning by trolling the threads. Its certainly a choice
I assume this is a reference to crypto. Sadly your logic is not good here.
Bitcoin was 70k at election. It's 90k now.
Dems are trying their hardest to appease the banking industry to kill crypto. It would be sub 50k right now with Kamala/Warren cabal in charge.
If you think otherwise, then we'll just have to disagree on that.
I don't understand the Greenland thing. I'm sure Denmark would let the US build whatever base they want on the island if they just asked before all this bs. Would be a good boost for the local economy.
Not great having a bunch of bored US soldiers around but I'm sure a deal could have easily been worked out.
greenland has a lot of untapped resources - so much that if it were its own country, would be top 10 or top 20 in the world you name the critical resource - they have it in abundance
thing is the barrier to entry for these is prohibitively costly due to the environment so it's mostly untapped
but... as the globe warms, the cost of accessing those resources will plummet - and in the event that doesn't happen, supply and demand will ensure that they will eventually be profitable enough to pursue as we began tapping dry all the spots around the globe that are cheaper to access
it's far easier for a kleptocracy to make billions in short order by claiming such lands and doling out contracts to friends and allies than anything else
ie i think we all know that we would have never done what we did to venezuela if it didn't mean taking an active stake in their oil
I assume this is a reference to crypto. Sadly your logic is not good here.
Bitcoin was 70k at election. It's 90k now.
Dems are trying their hardest to appease the banking industry to kill crypto. It would be sub 50k right now with Kamala/Warren cabal in charge.
If you think otherwise, then we'll just have to disagree on that.
Well yeah, Trump hated crypto until he learned to grift the **** out of people with it.
dawg, this is where the whole conversation about what he says started. my point forever was that he's not going to use force on greenland. end of point. libtard position is omg he's going to use force on greenland, and omg he said he's going to use force. look at what he says!!!!1) he never said he's going to use force on greenland, but sure imply that as you will based on his
“The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilizing the U.S. military is always an option at the commander in chief’s disposal.”
Trump reiterated his argument that the U.S. needs to “take Greenland,” otherwise Russia or China would, in comments aboard Air Force One on Sunday.
He said he’d rather “make a deal” for the territory, “but one way or the other, we’re going to have Greenland.”
Hell yeah brother, its the implication
Well yeah, Trump hated crypto until he learned to grift the **** out of people with it.
Its a fundamentally incorrect statement anyways.
Trump took office at 98k bitcoin. Everything else was just speculation of his oversight. His actions while in office have the price down 12% and counting.
Its actually looking really bad, like the Trump family singlehandedly killed off retail crypto and now Wall Street is about to take all the beta testing gains to the bank
It certainly doesn't help that Brian Armstrong is a new money ****** with an ego bigger than his ****ing melon
in 2024 i would have felt similarly to house in this matter
not because he's more unhinged now, he's always been unhinged
it's just that now work he has a compliant government and not one which actively worked against his random whims
in fire and fury they talk about that a lot, how he wanted to do stuff like fully withdraw the military and cut off aid from south korea but his staffers were aghast at this so each time he had them draft up the executive order for him to sign and leave on his desk, someone like bannon would walk up, grab the doc (trump was never in his office) and then trump would forget about it and then if he remembered a few months later they'd just grab the doc again
several times trump wanted to pull out of korea and the docs disappeared and he forgot
these days, i don't think anyone in his administration is doing that kind of gatekeeping anymore
Its a fundamentally incorrect statement anyways.Trump took office at 98k bitcoin. Everything else was just speculation of his oversight. His actions while in office have the price down 12% and counting.Its actually looking really bad, like the Trump family singlehandedly killed off retail crypto and now Wall Street is about to take all the beta testing gains to the bankIt cer
i agree with this but think this is unfair though, you should be looking at it before election night not on the day of inauguration
the public clearly thought he'd be good for crypto and i often kick myself thinking how much more money i could have made on his election in such a dramatically safer method if i just piled into bitcoin in the week leading up to the election
Its a fundamentally incorrect statement anyways.
Trump took office at 98k bitcoin. Everything else was just speculation of his oversight. His actions while in office have the price down 12% and counting.
you clearly don't understand how markets work.
I understand that I moved 50% of my crypto into google calls that are up 80% while eth and bitcoin are down 15%
I understand that I moved 50% of my crypto into google calls that are up 80% while eth and bitcoin are down 15%
nice!
silver doing pretty well too
greenland has a lot of untapped resources - so much that if it were its own country, would be top 10 or top 20 in the world you name the critical resource - they have it in abundancething is the barrier to entry for these is prohibitively costly due to the environment so it's mostly untappedbut... as the globe warms, the cost of accessing those resources will plummet - and in t
The earth is going to need to warm damn fast to melt all the ice in that place and the ice melting under your infrastructure over time seems like a more complicated problem than it staying solid.
But I'm sure Trump knows what he's doing.
Western Europe seems to be waking up to the reality that the U.S. is no longer a reliable ally. If you are a head of state in Europe, the problem isn't that Trump will remain in office indefinitely. The problem is that the U.S. has proven that it is a country that is capable of repeatedly electing someone as unstable and erratic as Trump. Wiping away that reputation is more l
Absolutely. I find it a bit depressing that people have to wait until it happens to address it easily could (although as I mention before predicting how weird trump is was a big stretch)
During brexit people were obsessed about length of queues at customs and how much membership cost. I think there were just 2 of us in the whole UK arguing hard that the geopolitics mattered far more and that we needed to be part of an EU that could begin to stand up to the USA (and china and and eventually the EU) - even if if that was about more normal trade/political stuff.
People could argue the other way that we should be fully aligned to the usa instead or whatever. At least it was the real argument not the stupid nonsense the pro Europe camp exclusively indulged in.
It's always too late now. Better options come from good decisions taken much earlier.
Politics isn't supposed to be all noisily rearranging deckchairs until we're just about to hit an iceberg.
Realistically tho there's not much Europe can do unless you give them a push to seek alliance and trade elsewhere. People are complacent until they need to do something thats human nature. That's why you guys argue about a handful of violent illegal aliens getting deported (because that effects you now) instead of impeaching trump for chasing all your allies away and breaking every trade deal ruining your long term reputation and global hegemony . Its just human nature to not face a problem until it effects you.
SO long term it could be good for them because trumps giving us a reason to act. That's how im coping here anyway. The truth is the eu and Canada didn't need any defense spending because they had no enemies so we procrastinated and lied about increasing spending. Trump seems to want to give us one
in 2024 i would have felt similarly to house in this matter
not because he's more unhinged now, he's always been unhinged
it's just that now work he has a compliant government and not one which actively worked against his random whims
This post is in tension with your argument that there was no meaningful distinction between Trump and Biden until very recently. In this post, you are arguing that Trump has always been unhinged, but it just wasn't as impactful or visible in his first term because he didn't have full control of government.
Realistically tho there's not much Europe can do unless you give them a push to seek alliance and trade elsewhere. People are complacent until they need to do something thats human nature. That's why you guys argue about a handful of violent illegal aliens getting deported (because that effects you now) instead of impeaching trump for chasing all your allies away and breaking
It's about balance. A lot of politics is making the decision about the current situation.
It's not that many don't care about big picture stuff. it's that the left/liberals have become too reluctant to argue for it. That's supported by voting least worst and imo it's why we're losing so badly.
yes, i didn't expect him to gain this much compliance, you know the old tired phrase of "the president can't really do that much" etc etc
turns out they can, they just never really tried prior to trump 2.0
Reliable doesn't mean that Western Europe has always approved of U.S. policy. It means that U.S. behavior was relatively predictable and the variance from administration to administration, especially as it related to policies that directly affect Western Europe, was relatively minor. The U.S. government is now capricous and unpredictable, which is harder to deal with if you a
Oh sure. If you assumed the worst for the US's foreign policy you'd get few surprises. The US tried to drag Europeans into the Vietnam genocide and debacle but luckily the UK PM pretended to be out when that phone call came.
yes, i didn't expect him to gain this much compliance, you know the old tired phrase of "the president can't really do that much" etc etc
turns out they can, they just never really tried prior to trump 2.0
If we survive this debacle I really hope congress does some things to limit presidential power. By a LOT.
Although, that would also require having a supreme court that isn't full of sycophants.
On second thought, I think this country is just screwed.
