T5o is put to the test

T5o is put to the test

Can you fold this?

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 150.9 BB
Hero (SB): 147.8 BB
BB: 136.1 BB
UT

06 November 2025 at 10:23 AM
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by Ceres


You're several leagues ahead of me on theory Haizem so I don't say this lightly, but those sentences don't make logical sense. Besides the fact the majority of those -EV hands are individually profiting from steals alone, if the collective > -50bb/100 then by definition that is a superior strategy.

Was gonna just admit that your skill edge is big enough and be done with it, but since you guys are discussing it - mind splitting the filter into what is 0 ev and what is -ev in theory?


Just gtowizard range

numbers are total EV for the combo. Note: solver opens some 0 EV hands for the sake of balance. we can open 0EV hands because BB is unbalanced/not adjusting


This is one of those spots where hero (in general) will claim they run bad / get coolered etc but in reality shouldn’t really be in this position to begin with.

I default to folding pre flop here - trash holding and OOP..


by Ceres

24k. Out of 245k total

You're several leagues ahead of me on theory Haizem so I don't say this lightly, but those sentences don't make logical sense. Besides the fact the majority of those -EV hands are individually profiting from steals alone, if the collective > -50bb/100 then by definition that is a superior strategy.

If top hands win 5bb/100 and bottom is losing-1bb/100. Total range is very plus EV, but that doesn't mean all of the hands are profitable to open.


Ofc. But i'm only talking about the junk hands as an isolated totality (see previous screenshot)

Drawing a distinction between T5o and T2o isn't necessary. If isolated total air > -50bb then it's a +EV strategy. As it would be in HU or any other variant


Same logic T5o will lose 40bb, T2o might lose 53bb.


by Haizemberg93

Same logic T5o will lose 40bb

Then why not open T5o?


I was just giving an made up example.

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