President Donald Trump

I don't know of anyone that is happy with the Dems as a whole right now. AFAIK their approval rating is lower than Trumps

But this is where I was leading with "if we accept both sides murder children and cross that off the list, what is next?" because sending foreign aid to push soft power is certainly a more humanitarian approach than letting food aid spoil.

So how deep do you really want this both sides discussion to go? Because it falls apart immediately once you move beyond a few things

I would say that you are currently the one who can't admit you were wrong about "both sides" because exactly what I (and others) predicted would happen has happened with reference to Palestine and things are certainly worse for Palestinians

Yeah you’ve spent the last 5 years frying your remaining brain cells via online propaganda. Good for you bud.

Go donate more money to some scammer in Bangladesh, I mean Hamas.

coordi, you are ignoring what the Dems did for over a year and downplaying how bad it was. you are ignoring how things were trending and ignoring what the Dems promised on the campaign trail.

Nope. Democrats were always explicitly better than Trump on Israel/Palestine.

There’s a plethora of countries around the world where one can live and be positive that none of their tax dollars will go towards the Israeli war machine. Added bonus that you won’t even have to choose between the lesser of two evils in most of these places because you won’t have a say. Sounds like the perfect places for Victor and his buds.

name them

Many options throughout the MENA region. Almost all of them preferable to the US from your perspective. Stop worming around.

you didnt name them and then told me I was worming around.

Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Malaysia, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen. Here’s a few. There’s even more and much much more which are surely preferable to you compared to the US, as long as you actually believe what you say.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internat...

here’s a full list of countries that do not even recognize Israel exists. have at it.

But the USAID money was corrupt and went to people's friends. 🙄

Iran Yemen and NK are the only ones that apply

Clearly illegal violation of the Hatch Act.

3 great options. The only question left is why are you still in the US supporting the genocide white imperialist empire?

Odd to quote someone who defended you as lying.

If North Korea, Yemen, and Iran are the only ones on your side, it might be time to reevaluate your epistemic or moral practices.

Well some of them might have under the table arrangements or indirect financial ties to Israel. A nasty byproduct of globalization and international trade. Of course, all of them would be more preferable than the US for someone with Victor’s supposed worldview. I’m not sure why he’s chosen to remain in the epicenter of the white imperialist Zionist genocide empire where he can be sure his tax dollars are feeding the Jewish supremacy war machine.

The world may never know.

I dunno, I read it as him assuming I voted for Trump.

I agree. and I did.

Maybe you should have someone more fluent in English explain sarcasm to you.

he wasnt being sarcastic.

What’s wrong with framing it as a choice between lesser evils? That’s how I see it.

But since a lesser evil is still an evil, the best you can say is: “My candidate/party isn’t as evil as yours!” You can’t really get to: “My candidate/party is good and yours is evil.”

Take the actually leaving off the table for a sec. If logistics were no obstacle would you move to any of the named countries?

If you have two options that lead to a bad outcome, but you are able to contribute to the less bad outcome, then the less bad outcome is more desirable. So the result has a relative goodness.

Most actual moral dilemmas are not a series of easy choices. You’re usually deciding between two outcomes that are less bad.

Some people may fail to even do the layups but the presumption is that the true dilemmas are not layups.

Try again.

He was replying to someone who said you helped Trump win, then he said he didn't know you voted for Trump.

Obviously they both know you didn't vote for Trump, and no one claimed that you did.