President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
I don't know of anyone that is happy with the Dems as a whole right now. AFAIK their approval rating is lower than Trumps
But this is where I was leading with "if we accept both sides murder children and cross that off the list, what is next?" because sending foreign aid to push soft power is certainly a more humanitarian approach than letting food aid spoil.
So how deep do you really want this both sides discussion to go? Because it falls apart immediately once you move beyond a few things
I would say that you are currently the one who can't admit you were wrong about "both sides" because exactly what I (and others) predicted would happen has happened with reference to Palestine and things are certainly worse for Palestinians
right most people are not capable of changing their ideas even slightly as they get exposed to more evidence. thats why you guys end up supporting genocide. bc you cant admit that you are wrong about lol Dems.
Yeah you’ve spent the last 5 years frying your remaining brain cells via online propaganda. Good for you bud.
Go donate more money to some scammer in Bangladesh, I mean Hamas.
coordi, you are ignoring what the Dems did for over a year and downplaying how bad it was. you are ignoring how things were trending and ignoring what the Dems promised on the campaign trail.
Nope. Democrats were always explicitly better than Trump on Israel/Palestine.
There’s a plethora of countries around the world where one can live and be positive that none of their tax dollars will go towards the Israeli war machine. Added bonus that you won’t even have to choose between the lesser of two evils in most of these places because you won’t have a say. Sounds like the perfect places for Victor and his buds.
There’s a plethora of countries around the world where one can live and be positive that none of their tax dollars will go towards the Israeli war machine.
name them
you didnt name them and then told me I was worming around.
Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Malaysia, North Korea, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and Yemen. Here’s a few. There’s even more and much much more which are surely preferable to you compared to the US, as long as you actually believe what you say.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internat...
here’s a full list of countries that do not even recognize Israel exists. have at it.
Iran Yemen and NK are the only ones that apply
Unbelievable
Clearly illegal violation of the Hatch Act.
If North Korea, Yemen, and Iran are the only ones on your side, it might be time to reevaluate your epistemic or moral practices.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internat...
here’s a full list of countries that do not even recognize Israel exists. have at it.
Well some of them might have under the table arrangements or indirect financial ties to Israel. A nasty byproduct of globalization and international trade. Of course, all of them would be more preferable than the US for someone with Victor’s supposed worldview. I’m not sure why he’s chosen to remain in the epicenter of the white imperialist Zionist genocide empire where he can be sure his tax dollars are feeding the Jewish supremacy war machine.
The world may never know.
he wasnt being sarcastic.
I don't know of anyone that is happy with the Dems as a whole right now. AFAIK their approval rating is lower than TrumpsBut this is where I was leading with "if we accept both sides murder children and cross that off the list, what is next?" because sending foreign aid to push soft power is certainly a more humanitarian approach than letting food aid spoil.So how deep do you
What’s wrong with framing it as a choice between lesser evils? That’s how I see it.
But since a lesser evil is still an evil, the best you can say is: “My candidate/party isn’t as evil as yours!” You can’t really get to: “My candidate/party is good and yours is evil.”
Take the actually leaving off the table for a sec. If logistics were no obstacle would you move to any of the named countries?
What’s wrong with framing it as a choice between lesser evils? That’s how I see it.
But since a lesser evil is still an evil, the best you can say is: “My candidate/party isn’t as evil as yours!” You can’t really get to: “My candidate/party is good and yours is evil.”
If you have two options that lead to a bad outcome, but you are able to contribute to the less bad outcome, then the less bad outcome is more desirable. So the result has a relative goodness.
Most actual moral dilemmas are not a series of easy choices. You’re usually deciding between two outcomes that are less bad.
Some people may fail to even do the layups but the presumption is that the true dilemmas are not layups.
Get punched in the face or punched in the stomach?
but you are able to contribute to the less bad outcome, then the less bad outcome is more desirable.
Stomach
So the result has a relative goodness.
That’s not relative goodness, it’s Sophie’s Choice: forced complicity in evil while under duress.