The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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Alright, I’ve excised the pro-life hypothetical to its own thread


by hole in wan m

They were males

All intersex are either male or female. Don't need to explain basic biology again so Google it if you don't understand

It's also not a coincidence that the only two intersex males were also dominant

Not sure what definition you are using, but there are definitely people who are not XX or XY. So if you're using genetics as the definition, this is definitely incorrect.


by Land O Lakes m

I have to assume you're just trolling or unitarted. I said in that very post that criminals carry guns to commit crimes, so that should clue you in that I realize a number of criminals carry guns, derp. Some carry bats, but that wasn't the point of that story. Please read a comment in context - I literally broke your post into pieces and replied to each so it could be easy for

Yes, and in each part it mentioned how of course you were not considering criminals. I obviously was considering them from my first post on the subject. I'm sorry that I didn't originally clarify that when I talked about people looking for an excuse to shoot someone, I was including criminals.


by Doorbread m

m I would guess *most* of the people who talk about it really just want to be angry at trans people

Well angry at someone in which it’s still socially acceptable in large sections of the population to hate against.


by chillrob m

Not sure what definition you are using, but there are definitely people who are not XX or XY. So if you're using genetics as the definition, this is definitely incorrect.

No it's not

Feel free to use the Google machine. Sex is in fact binary. Intersex are still either male or female


by chillrob m

Not sure what definition you are using, but there are definitely people who are not XX or XY. So if you're using genetics as the definition, this is definitely incorrect.

No, all DSDs are sex-specific, none is common to both sexes and every person with a DSD is identifiably either a man or a woman, not something in between. There is no in between and 'intersex' is a misnomer.


by lozen m

Agreed this thread started as the Left is the most violent and oh wait another lefty shooting up an ice facility to Charlie Kirk is dead to another tranny thread

Uhh, we don't know that. The guy shot 6-10 rounds according to witnesses... he's a really, really, really, really bad shot to have hit and killed only detainees. If you know you're that bad of a shot... why tf go and do this?

Also, statistically, most mass shooters are white, male right-wingers... this kid, is a white, male, and likely incel. He mostly played 1st person shooter games and was a heavy gamer according to friends.

None of these data points match him being on the left, other than the administration immediately blaming it on "the left".


They want to blame it on right or left so everyone forgets to blame it on guns


by hole in wan m

No it's not

Feel free to use the Google machine. Sex is in fact binary. Intersex are still either male or female

by 57 On Red m

No, all DSDs are sex-specific, none is common to both sexes and every person with a DSD is identifiably either a man or a woman, not something in between. There is no in between and 'intersex' is a misnomer.

what sex is Caster Semenya?


by Crossnerd m

They want to blame it on right or left so everyone forgets to blame it on guns

This


by Willd m

Most people with AIS will live their entire lives as women and if they never try to have kids will probably never have any idea that they have it. Hell it's actually a good argument in favour of trans identity outside of sport - people have been living their lives with an identity that does not match their chromosomal makeup for all of human history.

It's a good argument for gender being artificial and the exact opposite of a good argument for trans identity.


by Crossnerd m

They want to blame it on right or left so everyone forgets to blame it on guns

Semi-true... but this administration is aiming to start a civil war. This is exactly what Miller is trying to do, because he's a very ill human. This is why they are coming after "left-wing" organizations that they label as some threat, while completely ignoring all the right-wing violence.

I honestly now think that it's pretty much inevitable, and will likely start sometime during next major election cycle. I maybe gave this < 10% chance of happening in November if the fascist won. But this Kirk thing has totally changed my mind. This is what they want... they want violence against fellow Americans.

I don't recognize this country any more honestly. There's just way too many brainwashed people.


A sitting Democrat was executed on the same night another was attempted and I'm not sure I've heard any of these guys even mention it

Its obvious what they are doing when they hammer on the left for violence


by FreakDaddy m

Semi-true... but this administration is aiming to start a civil war. This is exactly what Miller is trying to do, because he's a very ill human. This is why they are coming after "left-wing" organizations that they label as some threat, while completely ignoring all the right-wing violence. I honestly now think that it's pretty much inevitable, and will likely start sometime du

I still think world war comes first but I'm sure they'd be happy with either.


by coordi m

A sitting Democrat was executed on the same night another was attempted and I'm not sure I've heard any of these guys even mention it

Its obvious what they are doing when they hammer on the left for violence

Ya... where are the statues and murals?

I guess you need to be a podcaster and insurrectionist to get those honors.


by Luckbox Inc m

I still think world war comes first but I'm sure they'd be happy with either.

I don't know about that. I think once democracy is completely broken in America... this would be the next step, not the first. First you need to break America if you're in the Russia contingency to try and fray as many of its alliances as you can.


by Crossnerd m

They want to blame it on right or left so everyone forgets to blame it on guns

Or forget the Epstein files.


by Willd m

As someone who was heavily involved in this conversation at various times in this forum your take is a lot closer to reality than lozen's (quelle surprise). I don't think anyone in the forum ever had a hardline stance on trans participation in high level sport - I think I might remember Bryce having been closest but that was coming from an angle of not really caring about compe

No apology needed,this is accurate enough. I’ve said it’s hard for me because I don’t care about sports, but that isn’t entirely true, I just see sports through a personal lens. Not just regarding trans issues; sports can often feel unwelcoming to other LGBTQ groups, including gay men. I don’t like hockey,it scares me. I don’t like baseball,it bores me, and too much TV time is devoted to guys spitting chewing tobacco and scratching their butts.

Football is complicated for me. It’s a source of intense interest and confusion. The culture around football, and the sport itself, feels exclusionary; not just the physicality and brutality, but the pageantry feels very straight. I consider myself a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs.

I think basketball is great;it’s fun, sexy, and exciting. I played basketball in middle school and was a point guard on my freshman-year high school team. I also ran track for a bit.

But it’s hard for me to follow sports as obsessively as most guys do; many spend their days on the couch watching games. I like sports, but they take up too much time. So I don’t dislike competitive sports.

On the actual issue, my position hasn’t changed: since trans women are women, they should be able to play women’s sports and use women’s bathrooms and locker rooms. There are some caveats, but that’s my view.


You guys should learn about Kantian Fairness Tendency

. There are certain things that should be made unfair to individuals but create a fair system for the whole.


by Victor m

what sex is Caster Semenya?

Male. Internal testes. Thats why t levels are so high

Sex is binary. Large gametes or small. Sperm or egg. Even in the rare case of intersex. The people trying to work shop around this are ignorant or dishonest


by Trolly McTrollson m

"Out of over 500,000 student-athletes attending NCAA schools, fewer than 10 are transgender, NCAA President Charlie Baker said during a congressional hearing in December. "

Can you please learn to read better and get back to me on this.

Most trans women prefer to keep the fact they are trans hidden (especially if they are in sports). So there may only be 10 publicly known but to suggest there are only 10 trans women competing in college sports because we only know about 10 is beyond silly.


The idea that a trans woman could be competing as a woman in the current environment, at NCAA level of sport, and it not be known that she's trans is at least as silly.


Its more than silly, the implication is insidious. The implication being trans people are sneaky, deceitful, and willing to break the rules


by bahbahmickey m

Most trans women prefer to keep the fact they are trans hidden (especially if they are in sports). So there may only be 10 publicly known but to suggest there are only 10 trans women competing in college sports because we only know about 10 is beyond silly.

You think someone could join a college team and not have their history known?


by bahbahmickey m

Most trans women prefer to keep the fact they are trans hidden (especially if they are in sports). So there may only be 10 publicly known but to suggest there are only 10 trans women competing in college sports because we only know about 10 is beyond silly.

I love when people unintentionally make points against their own arguments.

Honey, if you can’t identify who the trans female athletes are, then there is no issue here.

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