The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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by chillrob m

These 4 "armed guards" also killed people? I know nothing about them, but I'm pretty sure I would have heard if there were multiple other shooting deaths at the scene.

no but people argue its Rittenhouse's fault for putting himself in that situation not for the actual killing. only the most silly people argue the killings were not in self defense. Kyle was there with 3 or 4 other adults. they are actually the ones I would blame more putting a young kid in that situation and leaving him alone somehow. My point is he did something a lot of people would do. he just got the short straw


by hole in wan m

The reaction to kirk dying has been to dance on his grave. As I said before, if this happened to someone like AOC there wouldn't be people shifting blame on to her messaging or a tsunami of grave dancingKirks murder is like 10/10 outrage on the right. No riots or murders (I'm sure some loon will try to retaliate at some point though). The left is just totally unhinged with a br

Where are you seeing all of this dancing on the grave? If say hilldawg was in that chair--are you seriously telling us the Entire right's reaction would be kind and respectful? lol

There are plenty of ****stains that attach themselves to the right--do you judge everyone else by them?


by MoViN.tArGeT m

no but people argue its Rittenhouse's fault for putting himself in that situation not for the actual killing. only the most silly people argue the killings were not in self defense. Kyle was there with 3 or 4 other adults. they are actually the ones I would blame more putting a young kid in that situation and leaving him alone somehow. My point is he did something a lot of peop

If a british girl dresses very sexy and comes nearby a refugee center *she is not guilty if she gets raped by asylum seekers* nor she did anything wrong at all, the entire fault is on the rapists and the people allowing the rapists to be there in the first place.

Same with Rittenhouse.

We should all remind that the rioters should have been dealt with by law enforcement swiftly, their presence was itself proof of complete collapse of the rule of law. Why wasn't law enforcement there in mass instead of RH shooting to kill those enemies of the state?


by formula72 m

So we halt companies like Amazon that supplies the needs of literally billions around the world until they agree to certain labor conditions? Like, AOC's proposal of higher wages and PTO or something else? That’s kind of like turning off the global water supply, which negatively affects everyone, just to make the person pouring the water earn more, even though it would lead t

We could reclaim intellectual property without shutting down systems vital to day-to-day functioning. It's like you interpreting what I am saying as we should throw a car into reverse while driving 65 on the highway. Of course not. You slow down and make a u-turn.

Yes we have to tax the rich as well. And we can, as much as we want. All we have to do is vote for it. We can do whatever we want as long as we respect civil rights, which, btw, going the way we are under corporate control, we are steadily losing. This corporate oligarchy is making us into exactly the authoritarian hell we were told communism was. So don't hyperbolize solutions that are offered. Make them better instead.


by BGnight m

I actually feel safer when I see a person open carrying in a Walmart.

Sure you might feel safer but what about the black kid who startles him with a toy rifle? Cops have way, way more trigger discipline than you guys think you have and we see what happens with them under high stress. Panic. That adrenal dump hits, fight-flight kicks in and you'll have the trigger discipline of a monkey. Big difference protecting the entrance of your cave and going out in public. That's irresponsible gun ownership in most cases.

So why even open up the risk? No one carries in public like that without imaging some scenarios in which they might shoot someone, usually coming to the rescue of some innocent. What are yours? Stopping an armed robbery? That's a pretty popular fantasy. Stopping a kidnapping or abduction? Or maybe the granddaddy of all open carry fantasies: charging headlong into a hail of bullets to stop the mass shooter?


by Deuces McKracken m

We could reclaim intellectual property without shutting down systems vital to day-to-day functioning. It's like you interpreting what I am saying as we should throw a car into reverse while driving 65 on the highway. Of course not. You slow down and make a u-turn.

We can tax income a lot more than it currently gets taxed under federal law, but you actually cannot tax wealth at the federal level the way you would like to do it.

The rest is garbage nonsense, under communism your comrades assassinate journalists and politically active opponents regularly, to the point no one is left promoting any anti-communist idea. And nothing of the sort is happening. You know that but you lie anyway


by DonJuan m

https://a.co/d/b7F6rd4 Read this book by Athur Ashe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Ash... his own biography on how he overcame racism in sport and was one of the first sport figure to fight to end South Africa apartheid. Yet in one of chapter he specifically give out clear reason on why he is against affirmation actions even though it benefit black people.

I said that notions of black inferiority were rooted in pseudo scientific and religious doctrines in this country as as way to reconcile slavery with principles democracy and freedom on which this country was supposedly founded and that's why ending affirmative action won't wash away the constant suspicion of black performance in the workplace. You respond by saying look some black guy had his doubts about affirmative action. And the guy is a tennis player, not a sociologist or someone who dedicates their work life to the subject.

Do you have a job? If it involves reasoning I think you might be the beneficiary of reverse affirmative action, aka the status guo.

by DonJuan m

You can give out all sort of cheap/free stuff and these people just aren't going to be interested.

That observation, in isolation, rings true to me. The question is why and can we address it. Why are there communities where prison sentences are more respected than master's degrees? Could it be the result of a lineage, constructed by white supremacy and slavery, in which being tough meant you live and learning to read meant you die? Has that ever occurred to you?


by Luciom m

We can tax income a lot more than it currently gets taxed under federal law, but you actually cannot tax wealth at the federal level the way you would like to do it.

I'd say yes we can but I hate the individual who popularized that expression as he was a willing tool for said overly rich.

We can just wait for the uber rich to die and tax their estates and any transfers they make while living. Boom. Done. Next.

by Luciom m

The rest is garbage nonsense, under communism your comrades assassinate journalists and politically active opponents regularly, to the point no one is left promoting any anti-communist idea. And nothing of the sort is happening. You know that but you lie anyway

Nick Fuentes had 175000 (or more?) people tune into his live stream on Kirk's assassination. In his most prime time moment, probably of his life, he demanded state repression of free speech.

How many journalists have been assassinated in Gaza? At least 235. That's more than were killed in the entirety of WWI and WWII combined. Your side is steadily creating the authorittarian hell which it has steadily attributed to communism. We on the Left have always said capitalism and freedom/democracy are not simpatico and now we are all seeing the truth of it.


by hole in wan m

who shot violent rioters and a child rapist

So you think child rapists deserve to be shot when they do violent things?

(Didn't think that one through, did you?)

But you're Maga, no one expects you to have a functioning brain...


by Luciom m

We can tax income a lot more than it currently gets taxed under federal law, but you actually cannot tax wealth at the federal level the way you would like to do it.

A primary reason we made the income tax amendment was to shift focus to the wealthy instead of the gen pop. And it passed with loads of support. Of course the ultra-wealthy and politicians have numerous strats to hobble the process along the way lol


by wet work m

A primary reason we made the income tax amendment was to shift focus to the wealthy instead of the gen pop. And it passed with loads of support. Of course the ultra-wealthy and politicians have numerous strats to hobble the process along the way lol

You are confusing things. Income tax (federal) has been approved that way and it can be very high. But wealth taxes (federal) have never been approved


by Deuces McKracken m

We could reclaim intellectual property without shutting down systems vital to day-to-day functioning. It's like you interpreting what I am saying as we should throw a car into reverse while driving 65 on the highway. Of course not. You slow down and make a u-turn.Yes we have to tax the rich as well. And we can, as much as we want. All we have to do is vote for it. We can do wha

Yeah, i disagree that we can reclaim Amazon without it massively disrupting day to day operations.

But lets say we can, or lets say its worth it....Who is "we" doing this and where is this U turn taking us to?


by checkraisdraw m

If Rittenhouse is such a horrible person, which according to your personal code he may be, then the truth as it really happened, not some selective narrative, should be enough to convince people of that.It’s telling that people feel the need to say it “wasn’t his community”. So if it was his community then you would be ok with what he did? You would unde

It’s hard for me, as a Canadian I guess, to see a person belonging to a community coming with a gun ready to kill people from his own community , to defend what ?
A bunch of bricks ?

While being 17 years old ???
I mean cant even drink or vote legally but hey, no problem he should stand there with a gun .
seem the responsibilities of what a teen can do and can’t do is upside down to me….

I don’t think I could ever live in that country .


by Luciom m

If a british girl dresses very sexy and comes nearby a refugee center *she is not guilty if she gets raped by asylum seekers* nor she did anything wrong at all, the entire fault is on the rapists and the people allowing the rapists to be there in the first place.Same with Rittenhouse.We should all remind that the rioters should have been dealt with by law enforcement swiftly, t

Because a free state isn’t a police state with Cops at every corner of the street ?


by Luciom m

We can tax income a lot more than it currently gets taxed under federal law, but you actually cannot tax wealth at the federal level the way you would like to do it.

Sorry to intervene between u 2 but :
Isn’t that what you propose but from the other side ?


by BGnight m

I actually feel safer when I see a person open carrying in a Walmart. We need more citizens open carrying in public. As someone with a CCW, I don't carry often but when I do I automatically feel more inclined to AVOID conflict of any kind. Guns make a polite society.

Even if he was black ?


by Montrealcorp m

Because a free state isn’t a police state with Cops at every corner of the street ?

?? when there is a riot you send the troops and they kill everyone until there is no more riot. If the rioters unconditionally all surrender they all get arrested instead of killed. That's it. You don't back up and you use the full power of the state IMMEDIATELY at the first sign of rioting, as rioting is incompatible with civil life.

When rittenhouse went there the rioting had been going for what like 12+ hours? are you ****ing joking?


by Montrealcorp m

Sorry to intervene between u 2 but :
Isn’t that what you propose but from the other side ?

No i am not i am not proposing to arrest people who are happy because Kirk is dead.


by BobTheSlob m

So you think child rapists deserve to be shot when they do violent things?

(Didn't think that one through, did you?)

But you're Maga, no one expects you to have a functioning brain...

Child rapist shouldn't be set free. Once they are set free and they are actively trying to burn a city down and attack a guy with a gun, they certainly should be shot and definitely don't deserve any sympathy

You defending this psycho is a window in to what I was describing. A totally broken moral compass and a total lack of humanity. How many minutes ago did you post this?

by BobTheSlob m

What I like most about guns is that they made a charliekirkless society possible.

You're awful. I don't think that's strong enough language but well. I'm expecting your comrades will remain silent after your despicable demonstration


by formula72 m

Yeah, i disagree that we can reclaim Amazon without it massively disrupting day to day operations.

But lets say we can, or lets say its worth it....Who is "we" doing this and where is this U turn taking us to?

We is the people, the democratic majority.

The U-Turn is taking us to better labor conditions and stronger labor organizations, more public equity in private institutions, basically burning down the Reagan/Thatcher neoliberal plantation we are living on and going back to the 50-60s but without so much overt racism. We can achieve quasi socialism/egalitarianism by democratizing workplaces and directing central planning toward infrastructure/technology projects instead of endless war.


by Montrealcorp m

It’s hard for me, as a Canadian I guess, to see a person belonging to a community coming with a gun ready to kill people from his own community , to defend what ?A bunch of bricks ? While being 17 years old ???I mean cant even drink or vote legally but hey, no problem he should stand there with a gun .seem the responsibilities of what a teen can do and can’t do is u

10 million dollars worth of cars? people have died for way less. I would look at who convinced him into doing it.

As a Canadian this makes perfect sense to me that someone convinced a dumb kid into defending their car lot


by hole in wan m

Yeah the last couple pages highlights my last point exactlyThere is no symmetry between the left and right. The left still holds disdain for Rittenhouse who shot violent rioters and a child rapist when they attacked him. The reaction to saint floyd dying while resisting arrest was foaming at the mouth rage.The reaction to kirk dying has been to dance on his grave. As I said bef

Apparently you don't remember when Trump and his son, and several people on Fox, some of whom are now in his cabinet, made jokes about the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband.

Oh yeah, and Charlie Kirk wanted someone to bail out the attacker. Such a sweet guy!



by MoViN.tArGeT m

no but people argue its Rittenhouse's fault for putting himself in that situation not for the actual killing. only the most silly people argue the killings were not in self defense. Kyle was there with 3 or 4 other adults. they are actually the ones I would blame more putting a young kid in that situation and leaving him alone somehow. My point is he did something a lot of peop

Those other adults, plus Charlie's parents, should have also been prosecuted.


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by Luciom m

You are confusing things. Income tax (federal) has been approved that way and it can be very high. But wealth taxes (federal) have never been approved

I'm not talking about that I was just pointing out what people were hoping to achieve with the amendment on the heels of the robber baron/gilded age era. People wanted it bigly. There are other ways to go about the wealth thing fwiw--it's not impossible lol

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