The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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by Montrealcorp m

So to be racist its about to be part of a group and not about what views they are sharing ?

To be racist, one has to refuse to associate with whites or blacks. They have to believe that a person based on their color is mentally inferior. Very straightforward definitions for this stuff.

Believing that companies are lowering the hiring standards in other words, people of a certain race can get a lower test score but still get the job….. is without a doubt, not racist. Now people can say wait a minute that’s not what X company is doing. So that’s a political disagreement. There’s nothing to do with racism.


by TheKnight00 m

Haha ok then… I provided my opinion and so have you.

That’s not how opinions work either.


These guys really just pretend to not understand anything while telling you how it is

Maybe shut up and listen and learn? I dunno


Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson have all expressed doubt about the official narrative surrounding Kirk’s death. It’s fascinating to watch. Owens is quite entertaining in her own way on this issue specifically haha


by coordi m

These guys really just pretend to not understand anything while telling you how it is

Maybe shut up and listen and learn? I dunno

It’s all good. I respect you. It’s just a matter of having a different opinion. I’m not telling you anything or how you should view things. View the topic however you want.

No gotcha moments or games here


by TheKnight00 m

It’s all good. I respect you. It’s just a matter of having a different opinion. I’m not telling you anything or how you should view things. View the topic however you want.

No gotcha moments or games here

Racism isn’t an opinion. And saying someone has to be in the KKK to be racist is so dumb that it basically disqualifies any take you will ever have on civics


by coordi m

Racism isn’t an opinion. And saying someone has to be in the KKK to be racist is so dumb that it basically disqualifies any take you will ever have on civics

What qualifies as racism and what doesn't is certainly an opinion


by coordi m

These guys really just pretend to not understand anything while telling you how it is

by chillrob m

I'm pretty sure that every current regular participant in the politics forum (or at least of the threads I read) is of above average intelligence.

nvr4gt


Take this with a grain of salt because Klip is a bit of a wild card reporter, but he is claiming some of the most dire predictions about this administration’s crackdown on trans people.

https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-re...

The Trump administration is preparing to designate transgender people as “violent extremists” in the wake of Charlie Kirk’s murder, two national security officials tell me.

“We're looking at the entire spider web for any of these attacks,” FBI director Kash Patel told the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday, when asked about shootings by trans individuals.

“They,” Attorney General Pam Bondi said after the Kirk murder, are “putting this crazy ideology in our schools,” echoing the growing view of many in Trump’s inner circle that a “cult of gender ideology” is behind an explosion of violence by some as yet unidentified “radical left.”

Two days before Kirk was killed, Donald Trump condemned “transgender insanity.” Then in an interview about the shooting, he blamed “the radicals on the left,” saying: “they want transgender for everyone.”

“They are cynically targeting trans people because the shooter’s lover was trans,” one senior intelligence official tells me. “The administration has convinced itself that the Charlie Kirk murder exposes some dark conspiracy.”

The senior official explains that there is no process per se for dealing with trans people as a “threat group,” but feels that trans individuals will be increasingly targeted under the banner of “violent extremism.”

Under the plan being discussed, the FBI would treat transgender suspects as a subset of the Bureau’s new threat category, “Nihilistic Violent Extremists” (NVEs).

Btw can we move the discussion of racism and affirmative action to another thread if possible? It’s an interesting discussion but might deserve its own thread so as to not clog up news about CK.


by TheKnight00 m

Well, I think a lot of young left-wingers grew up between 2018 and 2024. During Trump‘s first term you had things like George Floyd, Charlottesville and other situations that were blown out of context by the left-wing and the right wing, but more so by the left, perhaps. As time went on a lot of people got tired of left-wing DEI/cancel culture annd wokeism and that’

So maybe u went too far to say the majority that want cancel culture or w.e are mostly far left ?
U ever heard of banning books in school btw ?


by mongidig m

This is perfectly said. It's a cost/benefit situation. This is why Kaepernick was tossed from the league. He wasn't good enough for the Niners to take on the headaches he created. I think comedians should be able to make jokes about anything. Unfortunately for Kimmel he wasn't funny.

Kimmel used to be funny.

Colbert used t be funny.

Both shows are losing $$$. I wonder why???


by checkraisdraw m

Yes, it tends to be that when you don’t make much of a stir or challenge people on beliefs, their prejudices tend not to come out. It’s when you point out that kids as young as 17 are being rejected from the school they want to go to specifically because of the combination of their skin color and gender, and you are met with a “boohoo no one cares” or you point out that white y

Even if all this is true (and it may be), I still wouldn't call it hatred.


by DonJuan m

Have you ever try wearing a mega hat? or have a mega sign. Left going to assume you one of them until you not. then the white sin comes in.

No, I haven't worn or held any pro-Trump signs, because I don't support him.

Again, I'm sure they would be upset if anyone there was showing that view.
When Kanye shows up somewhere wearing a MAGA hat, the left wing doesn't think that's just great for him.


by checkraisdraw m

Matt Walsh, Candace Owens, and Tucker Carlson have all expressed doubt about the official narrative surrounding Kirk’s death. It’s fascinating to watch. Owens is quite entertaining in her own way on this issue specifically haha

I saw a short chip of Candace Owens saying that the killer's texts were fake, but I didn't hear why she thought that. Can you clarify?

I don't remember ever having heard of her before yesterday.


https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch...

The upcoming memorial honoring the late conservative activist Charlie Kirk in Arizona will have Super Bowl-level security, according to officials familiar with the matter.

“The U.S. Secret Service has been designated as the Federal Coordinator for this effort. Our teams are already on the ground in Phoenix and Glendale, working side-by-side with state, local, and federal partners,” special agent in charge of Secret Service’s Phoenix field office, William Mack, said Thursday in a statement to The Hill’s sister network, NewsNation. “Together, we are fully committed to ensuring that these solemn events receive the comprehensive protection and support they require.”

Not seeing this like an RNC event with protestors.


by geezerchess m

Kimmel used to be funny.

Colbert used t be funny.

Both shows are losing $$$. I wonder why???

My understanding is that these type of shows have nearly always lost money.
Late night TV has never had very high viewership.

The value was found in promoting the network's other TV shows, films, etc.
Kind of a loss leader.


by geezerchess m

Kimmel used to be funny.

Colbert used t be funny.

Both shows are losing $$$. I wonder why???

I've never watched an episode of either show all the way through, but I suspect that late night talk is less compatible with the way we all consume television than it was in the channel surfing days of cable.


by chillrob m

My understanding is that these type of shows have nearly always lost money.
Late night TV has never had very high viewership.

The value was found in promoting the network's other TV shows, films, etc.
Kind of a loss leader.

At one time late-night was a huge moneymaker for the networks.

I think Johnny Carson was for many years the highest paid entertainer on tee-vee.


by TheKnight00 m

To be racist, one has to refuse to associate with whites or blacks.

This is dumb.


by geezerchess m

At one time late-night was a huge moneymaker for the networks.

I think Johnny Carson was for many years the highest paid entertainer on tee-vee.

These guys are still paid well. But Carson had virtually no competition.
There were 3 or 4 channels, and after midnight the other channels either went off the air or showed old reruns of sitcoms. I still doubt it was a huge money maker for the network, but I am curious and will see what I can find.

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I just read that Kimmel, Colbert, and Fallon each make $15 million or a bit more. Johnny Carson at the peak of his Tonight Show income made about $50 million per year (when adjusted for inflation). So they roughly make the same combined income as Carson made.

But the networks together have the expenses of 3 different shows instead of one, which will lead to much lower room for profit. Plus they all have higher production values than the TS did back in the day, where they basically had one a band, a co-host, and one set with a desk and a couch. Today's shows do many things out of the studio and have many different sets on which to do silly things.

This shows that all 3 main shows have been dropping in profit margin since at least 2015, and have been unprofitable since 2023.

https://latenighter.com/features/analyst...


by chillrob m

I saw a short chip of Candace Owens saying that the killer's texts were fake, but I didn't hear why she thought that. Can you clarify?

I don't remember ever having heard of her before yesterday.

Casting doubt on the txt messages and generally questioning the behavior and timeline. Also making insinuations about zionists trying to make Charlie into the patron saint of zionism.


by coordi m

Racism isn’t an opinion. And saying someone has to be in the KKK to be racist is so dumb that it basically disqualifies any take you will ever have on civics

No that’s just one example. It’s a strict definition.

Believing that airline companies are lowering the hiring standards based on race is not a racist View. That’s just common sense. Again you can attempt to point out that Kirk is wrong and airline companies are not doing this.

Man this is why Democrats are in the gutter. All their wokeism and race hustling is why they got swept in 2024. They’ve gone way too far to the left.


by checkraisdraw m

Take this with a grain of salt because Klip is a bit of a wild card reporter, but he is claiming some of the most dire predictions about this administration’s crackdown on trans people.https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/fbi-re...Btw can we move the discussion of racism and affirmative action to another thread if possible? It’s an interesting

It is a part of a thread topic. There are many left-wingers who are claiming Charlie Kirk was a racist. Often they will say they condemn his killing but the man had many racist views.

They are incorrect…. The left wing is so incredibly toxic on this specific issue. That’s why they have lost voters. And I only hope for the sake of the two party system that they change…. go back to being the party of the labor unions, the working class, etc.


by Montrealcorp m

So maybe u went too far to say the majority that want cancel culture or w.e are mostly far left ?
U ever heard of banning books in school btw ?

You mean elementary schools banning books that show graphic depictions of kids having sex?

Cancel culture is way way more of an issue on the left wing. I mean it is so blatantly obvious. You have this whole insane “white privilege” idea. Yeah like a white homeless person is privileged. You have the BLM riots, DEI, renaming sports teams to suit the agenda of some wealthy left-winger. Renaming products in the grocery store. Removing movies from Netflix or Amazon because some rich elite left-winger deemed them to be offensive. The list just goes on and on.

Major companies having racial hiring quotas…lowering the standards for people based on their race or gender that is a very real thing and that is a left-wing phenomenon. Look you might be able to nitpick some points here and there, but the overwhelming obvious fact is that cancel Culture/woke is way more of an issue on the left wing.

Certainly there are right wingers who are hypocrites who have tried to silence people or basically knock them out of the conversation by calling them anti-Semitic for criticizing Israel policy, for example. But that’s kind of relatively new. It does not come near the type of damage that left-wing radical cancel culture did from about 2017 up until recently. And Charlie Kirk was all for differing viewpoints. Hence the fact that he allowed Tucker Carlson to speak at his conferences recently much to the chagrin of radical pro Israel no matter what people.


by TheKnight00 m

To be racist, one has to refuse to associate with whites or blacks. They have to believe that a person based on their color is mentally inferior. Very straightforward definitions for this stuff.Believing that companies are lowering the hiring standards in other words, people of a certain race can get a lower test score but still get the job….. is without a doubt, not racist. No

by TheKnight00 m

It’s all good. I respect you. It’s just a matter of having a different opinion. I’m not telling you anything or how you should view things. View the topic however you want.

No gotcha moments or games here

Your opinions are horrible. I don’t need to read coordis post to know that they are not on equal footing. You’d benefit from absorbing that your opinion is horrible. You are not worthy of respect when speaking to something like this. You should expand your view on what makes something racist. It would benefit you to do so

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