The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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nope, microsoft did in summer 2024
Ok, so I guess they weren't too worried about being persecuted by the Biden administration for getting rid of DEI. Either they made the original decision for DEI because they thought it would be good for business, or they no longer worried about being punished by the Biden administration.
Many more companies dropped DEI after Trump took office and his appointees started threatening them to drop it.
No, and I don't even have test results. It's a judgment call, but I think I'm generally pretty good at judging relative intelligence.
For example, I think you are one of the least intelligent regular posters on this forum, but I still would put you in the upper half of the US.
Sounds a lot like motivated reasoning to me. Any empirical evidence for any of your beliefs here?
I spend about half my evenings in the company of the most woke crowd you're likely to find outside of an antifa meeting. At music events in Portland and Seattle, among many homosexuals and trans people, where most of the attendees and performers are young and what would be considered far-left by most of the country. (They're also nearly all white.)
I am a mid-50s straight cis white male who generally dresses "business causal", so pretty much as establishment as they come (in appearance). But I've never had anyone tell me that they hated me, and I've never heard anyone expressing general hatred towards white people. I believe twice I have noticed getting looks from people who seemed to think that I didn't belong, but that is out of roughly 900 events.
They express hatred of Trump constantly and continually talk about supporting Palestine. But they certainly don't seem to hate white people, or themselves.
talk about supporting Palestine. But they certainly don't seem to hate white people, or themselves.
Try opening up a dialogue outside the venue and wear a maga hat, or even just say you disagree with mass immigration (randomly picked a far left viewpoint) or any other stance they are passionate about and watch how quick the tide turns on you.
Try opening up a dialogue outside the venue and wear a maga hat, or even just say you disagree with mass immigration (randomly picked a far left viewpoint) or any other stance they are passionate about and watch how quick the tide turns on you.
I'm sure they would be upset about some of those opinions. We were discussing hatred of someone just because of their race.
when you keep a white person out of a college to give the slot to a latino with 30 points less or a black with 70 points less, that's punishing that person because he is white.
You know it, it's transparent, it's completly illegal, it is morally horrific and yet you are ok with it.
White people aren't being kept out of college; they're just not getting their top pick school in your scenario. But if they're a good enough academic candidate to get into an Ivy were it not for affirmative action, they'll have their pick of the litter for admissions. Which is probably why....
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/02/is-an-iv...
A recent study by Harvard University-based nonpartisan, nonprofit research group Opportunity Insights compared the estimated future income of waitlisted students who ultimately attended Ivy League schools with those who went to public universities instead.
In the end, the group of Harvard and Brown University-based economists found that attending an Ivy League college has a “statistically insignificant impact” on earnings.
I spend about half my evenings in the company of the most woke crowd you're likely to find outside of an antifa meeting. At music events in Portland and Seattle, among many homosexuals and trans people, where most of the attendees and performers are young and what would be considered far-left by most of the country. (They're also nearly all white.) I am a mid-50s straight cis w
Yes, it tends to be that when you don’t make much of a stir or challenge people on beliefs, their prejudices tend not to come out. It’s when you point out that kids as young as 17 are being rejected from the school they want to go to specifically because of the combination of their skin color and gender, and you are met with a “boohoo no one cares” or you point out that white young men face heavy social isolation that the prejudice tends to come out.
I’m sure also that if a black conservative gave the exact same testimony about racism among white people, that no one would plausibly accept this as an argument. Your own personal experience doesn’t trump broader societal trends that are observable, even if I don’t prove a single person you personally know ever mistreated you for being white.
Ok, so I guess they weren't too worried about being persecuted by the Biden administration for getting rid of DEI. Either they made the original decision for DEI because they thought it would be good for business, or they no longer worried about being punished by the Biden administration.Many more companies dropped DEI after Trump took office and his appointees started threate
Because Biden had just dropped out of the race with dementia . They made a calculated bet: they were wasting horrendous quantity of money ruining corporate culture to assuage radical leftist demands and they bet it wasn't needed anymore.
That came well before Trump created opposite costs if you kept DEI departments.
That ofc made companies run out of that trash very very quickly. And to the benefit of shareholders, we are at the all time high for the sp500 because, among other things, the trashing of DEI inanities.
Na man, racism has a very basic and straightforward definition. Just saying “if a pilot is black it makes me question if they are capable” is abject racism.
There is no coming back from that. It’s like calling all Italians hairy guineas
In that case, people can argue that Charlie was wrong on the political point. But they can’t call him a racist. He would have had to be a member of the KKK or Been a segregationist. There are strict definitions for these things as you say.
So again, people can say DEI and wokeism was not a part of the airline industry…though I’m sure some would challenge that.
I said calling him an open racist was within bounds of acceptable criticism and that many normal people would have that reaction reading his work. Meanwhile you said the guy said he had no sympathy for Charlie Kirk and no one should, which was an outright lie. It’s funny how loose and slippery you are with your analysis of other people’s positions while providing endless nuance
It could be problematic and hypocritical for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. But from what I gather there are way more people on the left wing calling for right Wingers to be fired for criticizing BLM or woke policies. Now that plays differently from people on the right calling for people celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death to be fired. That’s the gist of it.
It appears that there are not as many people being fired from their job for calling Kirk a racist. Now anybody on the right who justifies such a firing are hypocrites for sure.
Still there were surely plenty more people back in the heyday of BLM and the George Floyd riots who were fired for criticizing George Floyd or
wokeism.
In that case, people can argue that Charlie was wrong on the political point. But they can’t call him a racist. He would have had to be a member of the KKK or Been a segregationist. There are strict definitions for these things as you say.
So again, people can say DEI and wokeism was not a part of the airline industry…though I’m sure some would challenge that.
That’s not how racism works and it would take a pathetically disingenuous person to even make the post you just typed out.
Are you pathetically disingenuous?
It could be problematic and hypocritical for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. But from what I gather there are way more people on the left wing calling for right Wingers to be fired for criticizing BLM or woke policies. Now that plays differently from people on the right calling for people celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death to be fired. That’s the gist of it.It appears that there are no
If that was true why did trump win ?
U know Republican got 3 majority correct ?
In that case, people can argue that Charlie was wrong on the political point. But they can’t call him a racist. He would have had to be a member of the KKK or Been a segregationist. There are strict definitions for these things as you say.
So again, people can say DEI and wokeism was not a part of the airline industry…though I’m sure some would challenge that.
So to be racist its about to be part of a group and not about what views they are sharing ?
I spend about half my evenings in the company of the most woke crowd you're likely to find outside of an antifa meeting. At music events in Portland and Seattle, among many homosexuals and trans people, where most of the attendees and performers are young and what would be considered far-left by most of the country. (They're also nearly all white.) I am a mid-50s straight cis w
Have you ever try wearing a mega hat? or have a mega sign. Left going to assume you one of them until you not. then the white sin comes in.
It could be problematic and hypocritical for Jimmy Kimmel to be fired. But from what I gather there are way more people on the left wing calling for right Wingers to be fired for criticizing BLM or woke policies. Now that plays differently from people on the right calling for people celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death to be fired. That’s the gist of it.It appears that there are no
Yes, and I pointed out the ******ed hypocrisy of the left for saying “I love unions! I love the proletariat!” but then turning into the biggest HR pissbabies asking people to get fired for their political opinions expressed off the clock. But I think it’s certainly obvious that many in the academic far left actually fundamentally hate the working class because they consider them enforcers of American imperialism/colonialism/etc. No one should have ever been taking cues from these people on race.
That doesn’t mean we need to overcorrect into Trump insanity.
Well, I think a lot of young left-wingers grew up between 2018 and 2024. During Trump‘s first term you had things like George Floyd, Charlottesville and other situations that were blown out of context by the left-wing and the right wing, but more so by the left, perhaps. As time went on a lot of people got tired of left-wing DEI/cancel culture annd wokeism and that’s what perhaps in large part led to more votes for Trump in 2024.
One political ad that was said to play a big role in Trump’s election in 24 and was “that they them” ad where Trump criticizes Kamala Harris‘s stance toward men playing in women’s sports for example. There’s other points we could bring up but this is one of them that reports say played a role in the Republican sweep of 2024
Also, Trump and his supporters did a good job with the young conservative vote. Meaning new voters in 2024 were perhaps voting for Trump more than people thought they would have. Trump did pretty good In 24 with voting blocks that traditionally voted left
