The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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It's not the first time I've missed the boat, but I'm pretty good at putting together incomplete information... or so I'm told. 😀Personally, I'm not excluding maga online nerd extremist, who knows the world of gropyer... but what leans me into that ideology is all the work of taking their messaging to shell casings, and that people around him said he had become more political.
I've said before that I doubt this guy's political beliefs will fit neatly onto a American left/right ideological spectrum, and they may not even be coherent.
Nearly every single democrat politician and media figure made a statement condemning political violence and his murder, including Medhi Hasan who Kirk had once said should be deported.
Actually, they are only doing token statements.
Shortly after the 2 Trump assassination attempts, the top level democrats were saying Trump was a "thread to democracy" and a "Fascist"
Harris, Obama, and Waltz.
Come on man. You can't see what they are doing?
First off, unionizing isn't Marxism at all and its more within the realm of capitalism than socialism.Secondly, a capitalist country that can offer socialized healthcare, like Japan or Canada is a bonus, partly as a result from capitalism.Third, taxing the rich is a feature in a capitalistic society.Fourthly, clean energy is policy, an investment choice, that was heavily derive
You're right. AOC is super generous by offering to redistribute the wealth of the U.S., and she actually believes in the Constitution and respects the values of middle America. Really.
ask yourself a question: Why did the left lose Elon? Possibly the smartest man in the world, and a lifelong democrat up until recently.
Hmmmm...........
If you guys are going to keep pretending that Jan 6 doesn’t matter, then no one is going to take you seriously with this “violent left” rhetoric.
It's been like this since our founding. You've always had 1/3rd and sometimes more of this country that just wants a white Christian ethnostate.
Not just one-third but all of the Founders, being white Christian gentlemen, wanted a white Christian ethnostate and a 'democracy' only in the Ancient Athenian sense, that is a slave-based oligarchy, and the Constitution was riddled with articles drawn up to protect the slave trade and the plantation system.
We talk about right, left politics, but really this is just about tolerance vs intolerance. There's some people that only want things a specific way. They can't handle people with different ideas, that look different, love different, and see the world different. And then there's those that can, and understand the beauty and strength in those differences.
The thing these traitors to America don't understand is... tolerance is the KEY building block that actually did make America great. And if you get rid of it, you're destroying the essence of what separates America from nearly every other country on the planet.
Nationalist faith-creeds like exceptionalism, as seen above, tend to align with the political right, so it's unsurprising to find them on the American 'left', which is not left at all.
What was Kirk talking about when he was shot? I guess guys dressing up in disguises and climbing rooftops with trans "girlfriends" and firing off rounds is perfectly normal behavior?
Of course it was trans related.
What are you guys even talking about?
I don't see it. But whatever Robinson's motive he created a martyr for the right especially the religious right. So they have their Michael Brown or George Floyd and probably similar will follow.
It was a political assanination. It was against free speech on college campuses.
I guess these days the left is more of an anti-free speech, pro socialist / Marxist type of an ideology.
This is my interpretation of what happened. Also, Kirk was possibly the single biggest influencer in getting Trump elected. He was a political target.
It's not that complicated.
Actually, they are only doing token statements.
Shortly after the 2 Trump assassination attempts, the top level democrats were saying Trump was a "thread to democracy" and a "Fascist"
Harris, Obama, and Waltz.
Come on man. You can't see what they are doing?
Huh? The guy tried to steal an election. Not calling him a threat to democracy would be lying by omission. You don’t get to try to steal elections and then ask why people are being uncivil.
Besides Trump is not exactly shy about either calling for political violence or calling other people marxist/communist/fascist.
Yes the peaceful left . Protesting a vigil
Protesting a vigil is stupid as hell but it’s not violent lmao
Huh? The guy tried to steal an election. Not calling him a threat to democracy would be lying by omission. You don’t get to try to steal elections and then ask why people are being uncivil.Besides Trump is not exactly shy about either calling for political violence or calling other people marxist/communist/fascist.Protesting a vigil is stupid as hell but it’s not violent lmao
When you threaten to end the folks having the vigil I would call it violence
Yeah if they did say those things in the article I would have to assume that this falls under an assault, no? They are making threats against people. It’s not what I think of when I think of protest.
Some people buy into psyops so easily.
Yes the peaceful left . Protesting a vigil
Last I checked protests can be peaceful.
You don't have to mourn someone who wanted people exterminated for their immutable and harmless traits. You don't have to mourn the death of Hitler, for example. And in fact it is perfectly reasonable to protest the adulation of a racist demagogue. Personally I wouldn't go so far as to cheer his death, but I definitely have a problem saying he was a good guy when he was the opposite.
Honestly, if I thought for sure we would get the clear truth, I'd bet any amount on this. And I'll tell you why...... I know of ZERO left-wingers that know anything about what a groyper is. I sure as fk didn't. Why would a random left-winger be in that tiny world, as you just said, enough to know it, and also want to inscribe bullet casing of their common sayings, to shoot a ma
it could just be overlap. most people think still think pepefrog emotes are from racists and that was maybe a thing 8 years ago. Its not exactly a smoking gun I admit there is some substance but not enough to take a 50% bet on. The internet recycles memes daily. One that is fringe will become mainstreet the next day
and my god bella ciao is from one of the most popular tv shows of the decade called money heist. Even my mother would get the reference. Hell divers is one of the most popular games in the last couple of years. This is pretty main stream stuff
it could just be overlap. most people think still think pepefrog emotes are from racists and that was maybe a thing 8 years ago. Its not exactly a smoking gun I admit there is some substance but not enough to take a 50% bet on. The internet recycles memes daily. One that is fringe will become mainstreet the next dayand my god bella ciao is from one of the most popular tv show
But you add it all up, and you get a sht groyper sandwich.
Ya... sorry, I don't know anyone who knows all of those things. Or the fact they are a big part of that culture.
I'd love to know how this bet would be adjudicated. There is zero chance that the two of you would ever agree on what conclusion the facts support, even if all the facts were known and undisputed.
I think it would have to be clear evidence either way and would likely have to agree to a draw alot of the time. I mean we still don't know the first trump shooters motives with a high degree of certainty. maybe not even the second one I just tossed him into the batshit crazy camp
I think it would have to be clear evidence either way and would likely have to agree to a draw alot of the time. I mean we still don't know the first trump shooters motives with a high degree of certainty. maybe not even the second one I just tossed him into the batshit crazy camp
the first kid was a beyond-maga nazi type, the 2nd guy was a maga dude who was radicalized into hating him because of ukraine (but yeah also might have just been insane)
Was there ever any hard evidence for Thomas crooks? I remember he was shown donating to both partys and both party claimed he was on the other side and I lost interest. I was under the assumption they found nothing
Huh? The guy tried to steal an election. Not calling him a threat to democracy would be lying by omission. You don’t get to try to steal elections and then ask why people are being uncivil.Besides Trump is not exactly shy about either calling for political violence or calling other people marxist/communist/fascist.Protesting a vigil is stupid as hell but it’s not violent lmao
Because Kamala actually is a socialist / Marxist.
Trump obviously isn't.
He's also obviously not a threat to democracy given that he believes in the constitution, but Kamala harris and Obama were a threat to democracy because they don't give a damn about the Consitution or the USA values and traditons.
Do you see what they just did?
They accused their political opponent of doing exactly what they are actually doing.
This is called gas lighting.
Last I checked protests can be peaceful.You don't have to mourn someone who wanted people exterminated for their immutable and harmless traits. You don't have to mourn the death of Hitler, for example. And in fact it is perfectly reasonable to protest the adulation of a racist demagogue. Personally I wouldn't go so far as to cheer his death, but I definitely have a problem sayi
Kirk never wanted anyone exterminated and of course there we go with the comparison to Hitler tossed in . I am not sure what you define as a good guy or what made him a bad guy ? Someone who wants peaceful open debate seems OK to me ?
Huh? The guy tried to steal an election. Not calling him a threat to democracy would be lying by omission. You don’t get to try to steal elections and then ask why people are being uncivil.Besides Trump is not exactly shy about either calling for political violence or calling other people marxist/communist/fascist.Protesting a vigil is stupid as hell but it’s not violent lmao
Given that social media sites supressed the Hunter Biden laptop story at the instructions of the FBI and vote counts were being changed in inner cities unsupervised, I don't think Trump actually lost a fair election for sure, at least not by my defitintion.
I'm saying I'm not confident that the process was straight up. Thus the 2 big to rig results in 2024.
Why is the hell would democrats
a. deliberately open the border, which trump was able to close in about a week in office
b. not require an id to vote as their other top election topic.
Sorry, but cheaters never prosper, dems. GG
The ability to craft narratives, brainwash, etc is amazing
The guy was living with his romantic partner who was transitioning. The messages on the cases were antifa... but it's anyone's guess?
Because Kamala actually is a socialist / Marxist. Trump obviously isn't.He's also obviously not a threat to democracy given that he believes in the constitution, but Kamala harris and Obama were a threat to democracy because they don't give a damn about the Consitution or the USA values and traditons.Do you see what they just did?They accused their political opponent of doing
Cool story bro. I will not stop calling the guy that tried to steal an election with lies about voter fraud a threat to democracy. It’s not a call to violence to tell the truth, sorry you’re triggered.
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Anyway, for people interested we finally have some leaked messages from the master leaker Ken Klip
