The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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You guys are an entertaining bunch. Two weeks ago, you people argued which race sucks the most for shootings (a shooting that was surely forgotten) and now we are working our way through which party affiliation sucks the most balls at it.


While we discuss the present, we should remember that Obama pardoned Oscar Lopez-Rivera

A self-identified "combatant against the USA", member of a group responsible for like 100 bombings on american soil.


The party discussion is pretty foundational to how we got here and how ****ed we truly are

Until Republicans wake up to the fact that they are the drunken abusive husbands throwing the bowl of stew at their wives head for microwaving it a little too long then we probably wont get anywhere as a country


I might be the only one on earth who spends this much time talking politics who still doesnt know which team id join if i was forced to pick a side of one of these two shitshows for the upcoming race/party affiliation war. Do I lay cover for Nut Nut or Luciom?

I might join Vics team and go after both.


meanwhile out of nowhere:

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer
My thoughts this evening are with the loved ones of Charlie Kirk.

It is heartbreaking that a young family has been robbed of a father and a husband.

We must all be free to debate openly and freely without fear - there can be no justification for political violence

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Kirk would have been arrested for hate speech in the UK after 10 minutes of most of his speeches

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/196589...


by Luciom m

well that's normal everywhere in the world.the ethos of the right is the defense of the status quo (or sometimes the attempt to return to previous preferred states), and the attempt to preserve what's good in society from the relentless attempts of the left to destroy it. being right-wing would just require living life normally with not much political attachment if it wasn't in

the idea of acting like leftism is some kind of static position stable throughout time is laughably stupid. there’s no way any of this grand narrative could actually be sustained across careful analysis.

remember, albert einstein was a huge leftist, probably further left than me, and he was a genius theoretical physicist. the idea that you can just throw any odious smear at leftism and have it stick is preposterous.

it’s especially preposterous when you have defended the theory that leftism is when the government does stuff, which can’t be held consistent with this new presentation of leftism is when bum, vagrant, anti-productivity, etc.


by formula72 m

I might be the only one on earth who spends this much time talking politics who still doesnt know which team id join if i was forced to pick a side of one of these two shitshows for the upcoming race/party affiliation war.

I might join Vics team and go after both.

Vic’s team are who these crazy people are talking about. It’s a motte and bailey. When they say left they want you to think Democrat, but they actually mean marxist/anarchist.


by Luciom m

I'll wait for data on the shooter like i always do. Sometimes it comes fast, sometimes it takes longer. For now it "looks like" it's a white elder, and afaik , we know nothing else.

An unrelated question though is "how many high profile rightwing people do they need to attempt to assassinate before we start talking of political terrorism against the right"?

I'm confused- you advocate lethal force against pretty much anyone whose views differ from yours. Why aren't you advocating this, seeing as it's the same principal?


by hole in wan m

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

Yes, this is so true. Thanks for sharing and constantly pointing it out for the last ten years. Makes me furious about the left. They are all evil. Makes me want to go out and give them all what they need. Enough of the leftist extremists. Enough of just vilifying them. We have to sop them once and for all.


by corpus vile m

I'm confused- you advocate lethal force against pretty much anyone whose views differ from yours. Why aren't you advocating this, seeing as it's the same principal?

I advocate for the use of legitimate, legal state violence against enemies of the state, which aren't just "people whose views differ from mine", rather people who act in ways incompatible with civil society.

But you guys want to pretend otherwise and keep doing that so you could just talk among yourselves while illegal political violence grows because you refused to use the state for one of it's main purposes: protect people from violence.

And when the state fails at protecting people from violence systemically, because attempting to do so is "fascism" according to "fascist scholars" (jfc), that's when actual fascism arises, because if the people can't get law and order withing a liberal democratic environment, they ditch the liberal democratic environment every time, not the desire for law and order.


by coordi m

If we are talking potential conspiracies, I too thought the video of Trump looked off

Seems to be doing a good Hole in wan impression there with his radical left mutterings.


by Luciom m

I advocate for the use of legitimate, legal state violence against enemies of the state, which aren't just "people whose views differ from mine", rather people who act in ways incompatible with civil society.But you guys want to pretend otherwise and keep doing that so you could just talk among yourselves while illegal political violence grows because you refused to use the sta

So you never said Marxists should be killed? Isn't that killing those whose views you oppose? Why the double standard when someone apparently agrees with you and kills someone whose views they possibly oppose?


by corpus vile m

So you never said Marxists should be killed? Isn't that killing those whose views you oppose? Why the double standard when someone apparently agrees with you and kills someone whose views they possibly oppose?

not just for agreeing with marxists ideas, as i abundantly clarified. But when you start acting, that's not speech anymore.


by Dunyain m

In this case, given Kirk is an influencer and not an actual politician; I am guessing the shooter was someone local with radial political views that aligned them against Kirk. Probably a radical leftist, but you never know. And the shooting was mainly an act of opportunism as Kirk was in town and presented a soft target. A lot of far right wing social media is floating consp

a proficient sniper while being anti gun and a radical left ?


by Luciom m

not just for agreeing with marxists ideas, as i abundantly clarified. But when you start acting, that's not speech anymore.

u did not clarify.
u just change your tune since your previous wishes couldnt hold the current political narrative.
but soon u willl be able too seeing how the US is evolving...


I think it’s obvious where this is going. It’s a pretext for state crackdowns and future violence. None of them have actually proposed what they think the proactive solution to the problem is. Trump certainly shirked from his responsibility as the president to bring down the temperature.


by Montrealcorp m

a proficient sniper while being anti gun and a radical left ?

Could be military trained, lots of Americans seem to go into the military for a trade or benefits or whatever, regardless of their politics.


by Luciom m

not just for agreeing with marxists ideas, as i abundantly clarified. But when you start acting, that's not speech anymore.

Wasn't Kirk as radical as a Marxist?


by corpus vile m

Wasn't Kirk as radical as a Marxist?

not even vaguely? especially not in the USA? maybe he would be in France.

which Kirk opinions are in full contrast with the American federal constitution?


by Luciom m

not just for agreeing with marxists ideas, as i abundantly clarified. But when you start acting, that's not speech anymore.

You've previously said that you mean by "start acting" is eg having demonstrations.


by jalfrezi m

You've previously said that you mean by "start acting" is eg having demonstrations.

not demonstrations, but violent ones. And violence against property is violence.

But for example wrt people who simply chant "death to america" i said they should be monitored by law enforcement and the full power of the state used when they commit actual crimes.

Ofc if they aren't citizens they should all be deported and if they are naturalized citizenship should be stripped from them but that's a different issue


Charlie Kirk

@charliekirk11
When things are moving very fast and people are losing their minds, it’s important to stay grounded. Turn off your phone, read scripture, spend time with friends, and remember internet fury is not real life. It’s going to be ok.
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https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/19349...


by Nepeeme2008 m

Yes, this is so true. Thanks for sharing and constantly pointing it out for the last ten years. Makes me furious about the left. They are all evil. Makes me want to go out and give them all what they need. Enough of the leftist extremists. Enough of just vilifying them. We have to sop them once and for all.

Yeah, totally normal website you guys are running here.


by hole in wan m

They fired him for his disgusting comments but stay strong and focused on what's important

Who got fired? I don't even know what you are talking about or anything about this Cheong guy. I simply was explaining your stance on reposting things from your social media feed, which you immediately confirmed was correct.


by Nepeeme2008 m

We have to sop them once and for all.

What would this entail?

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