The murder of Charlie Kirk
Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?
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Literally Luciom
Crossnerd has warned me for replying to you quoting your own words, so she has successfully stifled my speech against you. I’m just putting that out there because I will no longer reply to your posts.
I warned you for weaponizing mental health, which you very well know. Don’t be a misleading little ****, ok?
I warned you for weaponizing mental health, which you very well know. Don’t be a misleading little ****, ok?
He says whatever he wants all day including hiding behind mental illness to justify his inflammatory rhetoric. I was just asking him if he really meant what he said about Freak being a white supremacist or if it was mental illness as he said in one of his recent posts.
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lol at not being mentally ill by the neverending stream of dead babies that we see. and then to be told by people like Dun and Doyle and checkrais that actually its a good thing that those babies are murdered. and then people like knight say that the people doing it are good people while the people who are fighting and dying in the most brave way ever visually recorded to stop the mass murder are the bad guys.
By the way calling someone mentally ill = warning, but saying that I think “its a good thing that those babies are murdered” = whatever
Like I said, you win, I will not respond to him.
Well, just to take two topical examples; if your argument is that there is no problem of black on white targeted violence or political violence against conservatives; and conservatives are just making it all up, you sure did not time it very well to make your point.
My guy, I literally posted a tweet with 7 confirmed examples of right wing political violence against the left from the last 4-5 years and all you have is the notion that a leftist probably did this one thing
Even if its true that this was politically motivated by a leftist the rightys have a long way to go to catch up in victimization
Didn’t take long for MSNBC host to say Charlie got what was coming good to see they fired him
My guy, I literally posted a tweet with 7 confirmed examples of right wing political violence against the left from the last 4-5 years and all you have is the notion that a leftist probably did this one thing
Even if its true that this was politically motivated by a leftist the rightys have a long way to go to catch up in victimization
You quoted Hasan Piker (who regularly glorifies Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas; just to show what kind of character we are talking out) saying conservatives just make everything up. And now you defending this position by pointing out there is right wing violence. You understand that right wing violence doesn't negate left wing violence. There is still an epidemic of left wing political violence going on in America, and this is true no matter how many instances of right wing violence you can come up with.
And quoting Hasan Piker certainly doesn't give whatever point your are trying to make any validity. He is clearly a partisan who has picked his side and cares little for truth.
The Houthis are clearly some of the worst human beings on the planet. Zero redeeming qualities. Just a big pile of suckiness. And once you start glorifying them, I think we can all agree you should not be regarded as someone anyone should be looking towards for moral clarity on any issue.
You quoted Hasan Piker (who regularly glorifies Houthis, Hezbollah and Hamas; just to show what kind of character we are talking out) saying conservatives just make everything up. And now you defending this position by pointing out there is right wing violence. You understand that right wing violence doesn't negate left wing violence. There is still an epidemic of left wing
The tweet I'm talking about was from Mehdi Hasan. I personally think Hasan is a moron, he just happened to say something pertinent today
There isn't an "epidemic of left wing political violence going on in America". There is POTENTIALLY one instance of left wing political violence literally from today
But I do appreciate you directly admitting that there is an epidemic of right wing violence going on in America. That was quite brave of you considering your political affiliation
the left on college campuses harassed countless Jewish students recently, occupied college buildings illegally, and also illegally blocked the golden gate bridge in San Francisco among other things.
that's all political violence as well
The tweet I'm talking about was from Mehdi Hasan. I personally think Hasan is a moron, he just happened to say something pertinent todayThere isn't an "epidemic of left wing political violence going on in America". There is POTENTIALLY one instance of left wing political violence literally from todayBut I do appreciate you directly admitting that there is an epidemic of righ
If we started a list, do you really think the list of right wing political violence in the last couple of years would be significantly longer than the other side? I don't. We can start listing off incidents and see who taps out first if you are up for it.
And we are only talking about major stuff like shootings, firebombing, Jews being set alight by Molotov cocktails, etc. If we included arguably nonviolent stuff like blocking traffic like Lucium is suggesting left wing "violence" would be orders of magnitude more.
Psychological studies indicate that generally leftists care much more about politics and ideology, to the point their lives are consumed by ideology. And conservatives just aren't as psychologically engaged along this dimension. Most right wing "influencers" are mainly motivated financially, and if they weren't making money off of it most of them probably wouldn't be botherin
well that's normal everywhere in the world.
the ethos of the right is the defense of the status quo (or sometimes the attempt to return to previous preferred states), and the attempt to preserve what's good in society from the relentless attempts of the left to destroy it. being right-wing would just require living life normally with not much political attachment if it wasn't in defense from leftist aggression. because right-wingness is the natural state of things, the flow of daily productive life and family life, existence to build without taking from others, decency, law and order.
leftism is the disgust for present day conditions and the feeling change is necessary and just. leftism is alo the politics of envy, of jealousness, of perceiving others having privileges and desiring them and being willing to violently take other people stuff and status because you feel you or groups you like, lack it.
leftism is action and chaos and disorder and violence and stirring up the pot with the hope things change in a direction leftists prefer. that attracts both the people who are naturally troublemakers and failed people, misfits, wretches, bums and vagrants who have nothing to lose (or perceive they have nothing to lose). all those people are inherently more violent, their time is worth less (so they can participate in activism).
If we started a list, do you really think the list of right wing political violence in the last couple of years would be significantly longer than the other side? I don't. We can start listing off incidents and see who taps out first if you are up for it. And we are only talking about major stuff like shootings, firebombing, Jews being set alight by Molotov cocktails, etc.
how can you call a main bridge being blockaded 5 hours "nonviolent" when democrat prosecutors threw the book at the violent groups that did it.
anyway leftist academics and "fact checker" did compile completely absurd lists that purportedly show right-wing violence being higher because the systematically don't consider what is obviously leftwing political violence as such. anti white and Asian violence from blacks predicated on race, after the left pushed the narrative of white racism as hard as possible, isn't considered political violence of retribution for example.
that's because until recently they dominated the narrative and that included inventing a made up world where leftists aren't the ultra violent ones, because leftists wrote they weren't.
and they actually do believe that
My guy, I literally posted a tweet with 7 confirmed examples of right wing political violence against the left from the last 4-5 years and all you have is the notion that a leftist probably did this one thing
Even if its true that this was politically motivated by a leftist the rightys have a long way to go to catch up in victimization
Forever the victims... never the perpetrators.
https://www.npr.org/2025/09/10/nx-s1-553...
"Radical left political violence has hurt too many innocent people and taken too many lives. Tonight, I ask all Americans to commit themselves to the American values for which Charlie Kirk lived and died," Trump said. <--- by the way, this is why we have the title of this post, and the conservatives in here, probably don't even understand why. All they have heard from their president, and right-wing media the last 10 years is how "violent" the left is. Meanwhile, nearly all the mass shootings, and even Trumps assassin, was a right-winger. But it's the left, because they burned some buildings once.
Then Trump goes on...
"For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals. This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now," Trump said.
I seriously wonder if ANY conservative in here can admit the hypocrisy above. Trump, who has been at the forefront on the daily, spewing toxic and divisive language, and literally attacking and threatening his political opponents on the left, is saying the "radical left" needs to tone it down.
Ya.... this guy who just posted this yesterday... what an example you set Mr. President. Unreal.
Its pretty amazing that an actual sitting Democrat politician was assassinated the same night another Democrat politician was hit with an attempted assassination and there was literally zero right wing discourse yet this is driving many to call for violence against the left
Still no clue who the assassin might be
Left wing champions though
Its literally bizzaro world.
a sitting democrat politician who had just voted "with the devil" (republicans) on a very important anti-leftist piece of policy (denying state subsidized healthcare to illegals) that plays perfectly in trump and republican hands was killed.
that made far far far harder to claim it happened from the right: the politician had just given the right something they never thought was possible to achieve in a blue state these days.
that's like as if a centrist republican voted with democrats to pass something in the Senate that trump was against and then got killed the same day or the day after: the obvious suspects would be republicans, not democrats, for very obvious reasons (purported treason and so on).
Also, when Paul Pelosi was attacked... all I heard from these same people was, "it's a mental health issue", it's not a left or right thing, or about guns.
GTFO.
If we started a list, do you really think the list of right wing political violence in the last couple of years would be significantly longer than the other side? I don't. We can start listing off incidents and see who taps out first if you are up for it. And we are only talking about major stuff like shootings, firebombing, Jews being set alight by Molotov cocktails, etc.
GL w/ this. Lucy is FOS. And when confronted w/ actual data from the FBI, that nearly all political and mass violence occurrences in America, like shootings, or running over people w/ cars, is by right-wingers, he literally said the FBI changes the reports on these, to make the right look bad. You can't make this sht up. Utter denialism of reality.
If we started a list, do you really think the list of right wing political violence in the last couple of years would be significantly longer than the other side? I don't. We can start listing off incidents and see who taps out first if you are up for it. And we are only talking about major stuff like shootings, firebombing, Jews being set alight by Molotov cocktails, etc.
I know for a fact it would be significantly longer
Feel free to try and prove me wrong
GL w/ this. Lucy is FOS. And when confronted w/ actual data from the FBI, that nearly all political and mass violence occurrences in America, like shootings, or running over people w/ cars, is by right-wingers, he literally said the FBI changes the reports on these, to make the right look bad. You can't make this sht up. Utter denialism of reality.
No i said they don't count obvious leftist political violence as such.
Every time a black person is violent with a white or asian person and the motive is at least partially racial , that's leftist political violence for example, of the most clear cut case. That's a purported victim of "systemic racism" attempting to get retribution from the people who purportedly infringe his rights. You know all those videos of blacks randomly attacking old whites and asians? every one of them is a clear cut example of extreme political violence.
But the FBI doesn't count it as such.
And lol they don't even have the golden gate blockade to protest against the war in gaza which led to a lot of prosecutiongs (by democrats!) as an act of political violence!
Well if I define political violence as right wingers saying something stupid, abrasive, pig headed, out of line, ******ed, made up, inflammatory, or just flat out wrong then im just overwhelmed with right wing violence to the point I can't function anymore, so there
