The murder of Charlie Kirk
The murder of Charlie Kirk
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The murder of Charlie Kirk

Can we all admit that the majority of extremism is coming from the left over the last handful of years?

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10 September 2025 at 06:58 PM
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by hole in wan m

So you don't see the murder of Charlie Kirk as symbolic of the rise of leftist extremism in America or the west?

You think these levels are stable and not rising

you know , many people gets killed everyday in the USA....
it just THIS time its someone that is popular on the far right spectrum and now people try to do a political meaning about it ?
about the thousand this year that died before him ?
u think all of them were apolitical because they were not popular ?

my point is wtf knows and try to use a random thing like that and make it a political issues is actually u not respecting CK death...


by Rococo m

I am very much on record as being critical of mangione stans, but what crime do you imagine that they committed?

Incitement in many cases, and a far more obvious case of that than what the left claimed trump did on j6.

not every Stan committed it, sure.

but I personally read at least 50 cases that blatantly crossed the line, and I didn't go on the lookout for them.

anyone going with like "society needs more people like Mangione" and variante thereof could be indicted for incitement.

now in a healthy society we would be out there trying our best to prosecute as many of them as possible.

but we dont


by Montrealcorp m

you know , many people gets killed everyday in the USA....it just THIS time its someone that is popular on the far right spectrum and now people try to do a political meaning about it ?about the thousand this year that died before him ?u think all of them were apolitical because they were not popular ?my point is wtf knows and try to use a random thing like that and make it a p

Yeah probably this was just some senseless act of violence. I really doubt the shooter had any clue who they were shooting at.


by Luciom m

I think you agree that every single person that participated in every one of the riots (not the protests; the riots) should spend years in jail at the very least (organizers and leaders should spend their life on jail ofc).

afaik of the 50k+ people who did actively participate in those dozens of riots less than 100 have got sentences.

if you have other data please tell me

50k people participated in rioting? I can’t find that data. where is it?

I do see that hundreds were sentenced to crimes.


by Luciom m

oh I get it, you are in complete denial of reality.the attempt on trump life wasn't real, and if it was it was right-wing (jfc talking about low IQ).and attacks on ICE never happened (????)https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/26/polit...On the night of July 4, a group of assailants mounted a coordinated attack on an immigration detention facility near F

So you have one alleged shooting, one actual shooting, and a rock. Wow.


by coordi m

So you have one alleged shooting, one actual shooting, and a rock. Wow.

from it never happened to, it happened but it was small (with 1 min search on Google btw).

a step at a time

btw " a rock" was several rocks from above which can easily kill people in vehicles


by hole in wan m

Admittedly I was inspired by Kirk's shooting to post about this topic, which I already believed to be the case. Since Kirks shooting caught me off guard, I hadn't prepared my homeworkHere's what I noticed off the top of my headConservatives speaking on campuses became extremely difficult around 2016. The violence and threats of violence were well documented. Riots, arson, attac

GTFO

Seriously... equating protests, and arson as equal to the mountains of right-wing violence in this country, as documented by our own FBI (which according to Lucy, is intentionally changing causes of death to make the right look bad - I'm still laughing about this one. Ty).

You want to tone down the violence? Don't get behind a violent fascist movement that spews hate and violence non-stop through its politicians and right-wing media infrastructure.

Now you want to whine about people pushing back against this? You're equating BLM protests, and SOME small riots, even though the overwhelming majority of those protests were peaceful, as the same as police violence against minorities in their communities.

Your false equivalencies are BS. You guys are always the victims... never the perpetrators.

Just complete ridiculousness on so many levels.


by Luciom m

from it never happened to, it happened but it was small (with 1 min search on Google btw).

a step at a time

btw " a rock" was several rocks from above which can easily kill people in vehicles

If I say "righties are violent extremists"

And you say, what no they aren't

And I come back with 1 relevant example

I have failed at making a point

You have failed at making a point


The 'person of interest' that they have in custody is, apparetly, 25 years old. (CNN)


by coordi m

So you have one alleged shooting, one actual shooting, and a rock. Wow.

“Our brave ICE law enforcement are now facing a 1000% increase in assaults against them as they risk their lives to arrest the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens. These acts of violence are fueled by sanctuary politicians' rhetoric vilifying our law enforcement,” said Secretary Noem.Aug 22, 2025

4 seconds on gemini, genius

https://www.dhs.gov/news

Probably fake like the trump assassination attempt. Never walk anything back coordi. Just spazz out and keep marching forward


by coordi m

If I say "righties are violent extremists"

And you say, what no they aren't

And I come back with 1 relevant example

I have failed at making a point

You have failed at making a point

if you say "rightwing extremists killed abortion physicians" I would answer that yes that happened.

I wouldn't say no, then wait for 3 cases and say "eheh it's just 3 cases", because even a single case is monstrous an unacceptable in full.

no one should even think it's possible to use violence against law enforcement because they dislike rules being enforced.


Wait, so you have noted pathological liar Noem saying something completely unconfirmed and I'm supposed to just take your word for it?

You guys are so unserious it hurts

If you are going to present something as a pervasive problem you better have a list to back it up


Only 70 years ago, conservatives in this country were literally stringing up black men and lynching them. No lefties have done anything even remotely similar.

Most lefties are peace necks, hippies, intellectuals, and have low gun ownership and violence track records. Most of the violence caused by the left has literally all been push back against labor rights (which many of them have been killed for), civil rights, defending minority classes and women. Basically, just trying to fight right-wingers all through history for decency, respect, and basic human rights.

It's just so absurd you right-wingers in here can't accept what you've married yourself to. All the red flags are sitting there for you to see. Maybe you all need to meditate and do some self reflection, because you're obviously completely in denial.


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by Luciom m

if you say "rightwing extremists killed abortion physicians" I would answer that yes that happened.

I wouldn't say no, then wait for 3 cases and say "eheh it's just 3 cases", because even a single case is monstrous an unacceptable in full.

no one should even think it's possible to use violence against law enforcement because they dislike rules being enforced.

January 6th

You have 3 (1 really) examples, I have 1500+

Do you see how that works?


by FreakDaddy m

Only 70 years ago, conservatives in this country were literally stringing up black men and lynching them. No lefties have done anything even remotely similar.

you misspelled DEMOCRATS


by coordi m

January 6th

what's the question? how many times should I repeat I think it was incredibly that all violent rioters on jan6 weren't killed right there on the spot?


by Luciom m

oh

Let's assume everything that POS said is true. I don't condone violence, but I also don't condone destroying democracy

Here's my interpretation of the right.

OMG... I can't believe the left is reacting to our fascist take over. Look at how violent they want to get when we steal all of their private data, trample on the constitution, attempt a coup, take away a woman's right to choose, try and privatize and destroy public education, undermine elections, free J6 criminals but target and terrorize democratic cities w/ ICE and the military, etc... etc...

Poor us... Why won't they just peacefully lay down and take it.

GTFO


by Luciom m

you misspelled DEMOCRATS

It was CONservatives... you know this. Whether they voted democrat or republican AT THE TIME, doesn't matter.

Name one liberal KKK member. You have Byrd, who is long gone (And renounced his past)... and that's it. And we know how the southern strategy flipped things. It's not about the R/D as much as the state of mind behind being a conservative or liberal.


by Luciom m

oh

I was thoroughly shocked to find that the NCRI founder is part of the right wing think tank Heterodox

Shocked


by Luciom m

what's the question? how many times should I repeat I think it was incredibly that all violent rioters on jan6 weren't killed right there on the spot?

I dunno, maybe the fact that 1500 violent right wingers were able to congregate in one place to violently riot might tell you that violent right wing extremism is more pervasive than lefties yet you post 20 times a day about dangerous lefties


by FreakDaddy m

Let's assume everything that POS said is true. I don't condone violence, but I also don't condone destroy democracyHere's my interpretation of the right. OMG... I can't believe the left is reacting to our fascist take over. Look at how violent they want to get when we steal all of their private data, trample on the constitution, attempt a coup, take away a woman's right to choo

if something is legal, you just accept it and never even think of using violence to try to resist it, if you are a participant in civil society.

you thinking something is fascism or calling it so doesn't change that.

that's your problem: you think your side is right AND that perfectly legal policies that you dislike are illegitimate and justify violence.

that's literally what we have been saying: your side does justify political violence. because you are vile subversives incompatible with civil society.

you hate democracy and can't accept political opponents to win and enact policies you abhor. and you are willing to use violence when that happens.

that makes you and everyone who agrees with you a domestic enemy of society, of the state, and it actually justifies IN FULL what you call "fascism": a legal, violent state response to your illegal violence.

the power of pardon is fully legal, any use of it can never be answered with violence ever, any thought of using violence because jan6 people were pardoned is domestic political terrorism.

SCOTUS is the entity that decides what the constitution means *and no one else*. you can disagree with any of their determination, but whatever they decide is what is legal and you have to abide to it, and if you are willing to use violence because you disagree with SCOTUS on anything you are a domestic political terrorist.

destroying public education is fully legal (there is no federal constitutional right to public education) so if you are willing to use violence when people do it, you are a political domestic terrorist.

what you call a coup attempt might not have been legal. but unless and until courts find the perpetrators guilty of it, they aren't.
and if you are angry that courts didn't find someone guilty of something, you are never justified to use violence because of it anyway. if you do... you are a political domestic terrorist.

ICE efforts to deport illegals might not be legal in full. they are currently being litigated. but until courts agree with you, or when they don't like currently, if you disagree and are willing to use violence because of it, you are a political domestic terrorist.

you have no right whatsoever to political violence, ever. any claim otherwise just defines you as a member of a tribe that is built inherently on political violence, as I always claimed leftism is.

it doesn't matter at all how much you believe your policy goals are preferable. you are a political domestic terrorist the moment you think violence is EVER an answer to ANY political grievance .

which is why leftism is INHERENTLY political terrorism


by coordi m

I dunno, maybe the fact that 1500 violent right wingers were able to congregate in one place to violently riot might tell you that violent right wing extremism is more pervasive than lefties yet you post 20 times a day about dangerous lefties

not when the year before 50k+ violent leftists rioted in 30+ cities


by Luciom m

not when the same year 50k+ violent leftists rioted in 30+ cities

I asked you where you got this 50k figure from. What’s the answer?

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