The murder of Charlie Kirk

Basically this

1. Charlie Kirk achieved fame and wealth by trading in divisiveness with a megaphone and being a complete piece of ****

2. Nobody deserves to go out like this and this kinda **** shouldn’t be acceptable

3. Charlie Kirk was no less a complete piece of **** just cuz now he’s dead

You have come awfully close to saying this, for whatever that is worth.

juan has made it very clear that, when it comes to reposting things from his social media feed, he doesn't care one iota what the person may have said in the recent or distant past. The immediate post is the only thing that matters. Make of that what you will.

Then Luciom gets mad when we call many Trump supporters low IQ yokels

ok we don't even know that

He never directly said it, he just implied it

There is a direct example of him doing this literally in this thread

Yes, I'm aware that he wants to spew right wing talking points while absolving himself of being right wing.

Its just a big coincidence that all his sources are deep right wing twitter accounts. Nothing to see here

I never said or implied private citizens should use violence against people plotting violent unconstitutional political actions.

I said the state should do it, after passing laws allowing for that.

it's not awfully close at all. it's the difference between the rule of law and this.

I am probably more pro choice than 50% of the libs. His takes were laughably dumb. But I spent about 75 sec.

Yeah, I really didn't know who he was and I do know the Kardashians and I am right leaning in several ways.

mangione (who will probably be punished, but his complicit stans won't), and the BLM riots that went basically unpunished.

Basically unpunished meaning they weren’t executed, not that they weren’t arrested and punished

his abortion takes were very radical yes. not sure if I would call them dumb.

they are consistent with radical religious thinking and while fortunately rare in the USA for now, they are very common in the Islamic world from which the left, especially in Europe, is eager to take millions of people to "improve" our countries.

Kirk was far less radical on culture than the median Islamic person the UK is allowing to immigrate these days, to jalfrezi satisfaction.

that's kinda the paradox these days isn't it?

I think you agree that every single person that participated in every one of the riots (not the protests; the riots) should spend years in jail at the very least (organizers and leaders should spend their life on jail ofc).

afaik of the 50k+ people who did actively participate in those dozens of riots less than 100 have got sentences.

if you have other data please tell me

Doesn’t even count Jan 6, the plot on whitmer, or the attack on Paul Pelosi

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wi...

Year Occurrence Location Victims Wounded* Victims Killed*
2023 Jacksonville Dollar General shooting Jacksonville, Florida 0 3
2023 Allen, Texas outlet mall shooting Allen, Texas 7 8
2022 Buffalo supermarket shooting Buffalo, New York 3 10
2020 Boogaloo murders Oakland, California
Santa Cruz, California 3 2
2019 El Paso Walmart shooting El Paso, Texas 26 22
2019 Poway synagogue shooting Poway, California 3 1
2018 Jeffersontown Kroger shooting Jeffersontown, Kentucky 0 2
2018 Black man burned by White supremacist Murfreesboro, Tennessee 0 1
2018 Pittsburgh synagogue shooting Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 7 11
2018 Murder of Blaze Bernstein Orange County, California 0 1
2018 Murder of MeShon Cooper-Williams Kansas City, Missouri 0 1
2018 Murders of Danny and Deanna Lorenzo Lee County, Florida 0 2
2017 Murder of Richard Collins III College Park, Maryland 0 1
2017 Car-ramming attack into counter-protesters at the white nationalist Unite the Right rally Charlottesville, Virginia 28 1
2017 Portland train attack Portland, Oregon 1 2
2017 Murder of Timothy Caughman New York City, New York 0 1
2015 Shooting at a showing of the film Trainwreck Lafayette, Louisiana 9 2
2015 Planned Parenthood shooting Colorado Springs, Colorado 9 3
2015 Charleston church shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church Charleston, South Carolina 1

Admittedly I was inspired by Kirk's shooting to post about this topic, which I already believed to be the case. Since Kirks shooting caught me off guard, I hadn't prepared my homework

Here's what I noticed off the top of my head

Conservatives speaking on campuses became extremely difficult around 2016. The violence and threats of violence were well documented. Riots, arson, attacks, threats. On top of that leftists were using those actions as a justification to not have conservative speakers at all because now the leftists could call conservative speakers a security risk. People like Kirk and Shapiro fought hard for years to make it happen. Is there anything even remotely close on the left? The right rioting over left wing speakers? attacking people

I created a thread about antifa. I documented there performances week after week. They would show up to any and everything they opposed to attack people. This included things like climate change to trans debates to 4th of july celebrations. The left and the left wing politicians dismissed all of this. In some cases justifying it with "they were fighting fascism"

Then there's the left media, leftist politicians, and the left (useful idiots) crafting narratives to start race riots and police hatred. Actual people were murdered in response and communities torched. This of course was in response to michael brown and the fake hands up don't shoot story. Even after it became obvious that a criminal scumbag was attacking a cop and that there was no crime never mind a racially motivated one. The media, politicians, and the left itself supported, endorsed, justified or made excuses for this violent movement. All after it was obvious the entire narrative and origin story was fake

We can repeat the michael brown story multiple times over. Watching fake narratives be pushed in to hate crimes in order to stoke riots, violence, division, etc. They turned places like portland in to constant riot zone. there was even the Chaz or whatever autonomous zone where they took over city blocks and turned them in to a dystopian nightmare.

The attempts a trump speak for themselves

The arson attacks and plots on elons life over DOGE were totally hysterical. Again the left ramped up rhetoric and narrative. The actions speak for themselves. Cutting government spending guys, let's trying to get back to planet earth

Targeting and doxxing ice agents seems like an obvious one. Their reported attacks have skyrocketed. This one seems less crazy than the rest but its yet another

I'm sure I'm missing a ton here but this doesn't look like a two way street to me. Like yes obviously there's awful people and violence on both sides. Yes people on the right have and will shoot people for political reasons. But I just listed movements along with rhetoric stoking them creating a much more violent movement. The temperature has significantly risen

Yes I would add the UNH CEO to the list and while details are yet to come, charlie kirk looks like another example

This just isn't true. It's pretty clear from this post that you would be in favor of a law that made it permissible for people like Kyle Rittenhouse to shoot Marxists simply because they are Marxists. And that's especially crazy in light of your ridiculously overbroad definition of who is a Marxist.

You had multiple opportunities to walk this back. You never did. Instead, you doubled and tripled down.

There weren't "riots" over conservative speakers

I don't even believe the Trump attack was real but Crooks was likely a right winger

"Plots on Elon" - wtf are you talking about

Attacks on Ice agents? Where are you even seeing reports of this? No wait, let me guess, Twitter.

Ridiculous **** tbh

checkrasie I asked for data on how BLM violent rioters incompatible with civil society were dealt with, because you said they were arrested.

did they geolocalize every single mother****er in the area of every federal building burning like they did for Jan 6 hunting them down like cockroaches in hiding for years? no? ah really?

This true

I also indicated that I wasn't sure if it was deceptively edited but the point the guy on nbc was making was similar to the point the guy i was quote responding to was making.

Again the hate hardon has this guy face palming a tweet so hard he's going to give himself a black eye when I've literally explained it might be a deceptive edit but why it's relevant. And no I don't follow the guy. He was retweeted and ended up on my timeline

I think I clarified that more than once saying "killing Marxists doing illegal things" (violently rioting in that case)

I am very much on record as being critical of mangione stans, but what crime do you imagine that they committed?

these things upset you and that's why I worry about you

I'll get back to you sunshine. I promise

nop
fascism is extremist and yet they had a majority of people to agree with it.
communism as well
theocracies
etc...

the high approval rates doesnt means extremist is non existent, it means the entire country tends more and more to extremist...

or almost any of the black on white violence (which is obviously ALL inherently leftist )