The murder of Charlie Kirk

What LLMs can do well

Pattern detection in language
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Comparing claims to known facts
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Framing analysis
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Style vs. substance
They can flag when rhetoric relies heavily on exaggeration, moral panic, or demonizing out-groups rather than offering evidence.

There's whole sub reddits about right-wingers getting owned by Grok.

Just because it doesn't provide the answers you want, doesn't mean it's wrong. GPT5 is actually very good at pointing out subtleties, controversial points, and not rushing to solid judgment unless it's data model scores high in accuracy of data and peer reviewed information. That doesn't mean it's perfect... but I find it much better at reasoning than most humans.

freakdaddy, when a black person kills a white person saying "i got the white girl", does the database that tracks political violence write it down as a leftist extremist murder? no.

When a white person kills a black person for racial reasons, it does.

White on black violence for racial reasons: rightwing extremism . Black on whites violence for racial reasons (which is exceptionally more common): just schizos

That's all you need to know how those stats are made up.

And ofc the FBI is playing under leftist rules for these topics, they tried explicitly to give the election to Hillary in 2016, what more did they have to do?

Live by the sword... die be the sword, couldn't be more accurate here.

I don't condone this violence in any way. But I'm not going to weep for someone like this.

So let me get this straight. The FBI... which is OVERWHELMINGLY conservative, as is most police and military, are intentionally mis-writing cause of death reports, to make the left look good?

lol... ty Lucy... you did get a good belly laugh out of me on that one. Appreciate u.

I'm not even touching the Hillary thing, because the literal exact opposite thing occurred, and I don't want that tangent.

Yes, anyone who supports Mangione is gross. Can you name a single Democratic leader that supported him? It’s a disingenuous comparison. If the right-wing leaders condemned every act of political violence I would not be saying anything about it probably.

You should give that much MORE credit to Democrats for going against some people in their insane base.

170,000 people die each day. Most of them are much better people than Kirk. Forgive my lack of tears.

I don't even know who this Kirk guy was and only found out by randomly looking on my tickers after hours. Guy looks he was a shitty person.

There is clearly an appetite from a lot of people now to get this urban war of stupidity underway and now you have a whole cabal of Charlie Kirks pushing up Smith and Wesson stock 10% in 4 hours.

Sure, as long as all of the people who made the j6 clowns, rittenhouse etcetc heroes go along with them. My god the traffic might actually be sane again.

To be honest this comes across like you believe political violence on the right is because there are bad people on the right and perhaps something wrong with being on the right. When the left is violent, well the right did this to themselves. They were asking for it.

It just reads like you have completely absolved the emergence of a popular new form of leftism, very extreme leftist rhetoric, and tying it to action (political violence)

Although I havent been able to see if this has been deceptively edited. If we take the messaging at face value its disgusting and kind of relates to your point

Is Kirk's killer an immigrant, Luciom? Come on, you must have a gut feeling like you did about the Southport killer?

I'm actually proud of the haters I've earned

very fine people

Kirk was possibly the single person who did more to move under30 men in favour of trump. which I guess makes him shitty for people who preferred Harris to win, sure.

he was also a radical anti abortion advocate and that pissed off a lot of people (including on the right) . iirc he was in that 10% of Americans who want a complete no exception abortion ban, and he talked about it a lot.

unclear how you might have missed his existence given he was an extremely online voice for "young MAGA" well before the elections as well.

I mean I can understand that if you just don't care much about politics but he was as famous as the Kardashians are.

we are like close to 1m tweets naming him now to give the idea

I believe the right doesn’t care about political violence and I do, so I’m tired of condemning every single act of violence while these insane people say “the LEFT tried to kill president Trump!” which I view as a direct and explicit call to violence.

Still waiting for you to cite any evidence of you not being a sentient pile of feces that has learned to type. Or even just the original claim in this thread.

as I said the only elements I think we have are that he is a white elder.

and I am not sorry to consider the son of 2 Rwandan refugees an immigrant even if he was born in the UK, for normal people in europe where you are born is worth absolutely zero, and what matters is who your parents and ancestors are and nothing else.

btw you remain an immigrant even if you acquire citizenship. you are a naturalized immigrant. which is what the "Welsh chorus boy" assassin was.

you are never a native unless at least one of your parents was in all of Europe. Including in the UK since you changed your silly laws like in the 80s

Yup, he was a POS, and knowingly profited from his lies, because he wasn't dumb. He maybe believed some of the religious based ones he told, but just like we discovered in the Dominion suit, he knew his targets were rubes.

This is exactly what Trump has been trying to get going by sending troops into democratic cities. Make no mistake about it... this is exactly the intended goal.

And the end result is always the same w/ these fascist movements. I look at it as basically one big revenge of the nerds movie. The bully fascist try to control culture, suppress minority groups and women, and crush dissent. Meanwhile the "nerds" just want to live their lives, and don't want to deal w/ the jock bully aholes. Eventually though, the bullying goes too far, and the nerds need to stand up and push back.

This is when we get the cycle of war, death and destruction starts that the right brings about ~80 years, until it's defeated.... once again. And then we just start back all over.

Nobody seems to learn from their history.

You'd think the fact that actual nazi movements always tend to side w/ them would be at least one red flag for them... but it's not. They buy into the propaganda that culture is under siege, and they must save it through violence. Any means justifies the end result.

Someone who didn't migrate cannot be an immigrant. It's just a simple matter of definitions.

people violent on j6 should all have been killed on the spot for me.

Rittenhouse is a hero and I don't understand how you can put him there given he was cleared of all accusations and proven to have acted in perfectly legal self defense.

you can disagree acting in self defense against Marxist rioters is heroic sure, still at most you don't talk about him, but nothing he did can be criticized morally in any way.

interesting that you want to put a person who defended himself against lethal aggression by Marxist violent rioters in a list of people who acted badly.

he defended against political violence on the left.

he was a victim of leftist political violence.

JC Wan is posting Cheong tweets, who is actively calling for violence agains the left

you literally can't make this **** up

I don’t feel like playing this game where we pretend that your random ideas of what should happen need to be commented on by me.

But no, I don’t consider it a condemnation on the Democrats that their primaries have radical leftists voting in it, because they never support those things and always call it out. The right on the other hand will always support their extremists and their violent rhetoric and pardoned Jan 6 people.

And part of having a civil society by the way is to somehow deal with our grievances peacefully. Even those coming from the extremes of society.

Lefties noting that Charlie Kirk spread hateful violent rhetoric for 5 years straight

righties: They are saying he deserved it

literally ******ed

If you blame people for violence who wholly condemn it, don’t be surprised if the next time they celebrate it.

anything that disagrees with leftism for you guys is "hateful violent rethoric" so the game with you guys is rigged.

afaik Kirk never said to shoot prominent leftwing people dead for their ideas and that's it.

There's no suspect in custody.

I'm not sure that's true, but maybe it is. He did however, pick on minority groups and insinuated they should be killed.

"Somebody should have took care of it the way we used to take care of things in the 1950s and '60s"
In February 2023, during a discussion about trans women in sports, Kirk suggested that transgender women should be "handled" as they were in earlier mid-century eras—a line widely interpreted as a call for violent removal of trans people.