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12 October 2020 at 08:13 AM
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Of the 5 shootings I referenced only 1 is being claimed as gang related. The other 3 unknowns were very likely white peoplebased on location


by coordi

There is a shocking lack of data on mass shootings by race and all the data is conflicting even among similar methodologies. One might conspire that the FBI in the US doesn't want this data out there in a coherent fashion

https://www.statista.com/statistics/4764...

There is 60% for ya

Other than to reinforce your own biases, I see no reason to blame the "gun lobby" for government methodology, when clearly it is the government itself that should be blamed. That being said, even if there was a good faith effort on the federal side to collect data (there isn't), the states and local governments also obfuscate data towards their own ends.

I think it is safe to say that government at all levels obfuscates data for a variety of reasons. Making things extremely noisy. And we should be careful trying to interpret any data but the most robust (for example, males committing most violence).


Fair statement


Lol at arguing over which race sucks more for shootings. You people created this mess.


Eh, I'm more just trying to contextualize how being trans is fairly irrelevant to the broader discussion of gun violence in the USA

In my rush to be as inflammatory as possible instead of saying "mass shootings are 98% cis male" I threw "white" into the mix and that gets the white nationalists rustled


I'm sure that arguing which race is most responsible after each particular shooting is the best way to quell the likelihood of the upcoming race war.

Because now, and after every shooting, the first thing we all do is prey to God that the shooter either is, or isn't part of their team. Nothing else matters anymore. We absolutely created that ****.


Good luck getting the right wing media machine to not jump on every shooting that involves anyone not white, cis, or lib

bonus points if they are a non white trans liberal thats like their holy grail

They figured out more about this person in 20 minutes than we've learned about Thomas Crooks in the last year


Men shouldn’t be allowed to own guns. Race is irrelevant.


I'd personally be more terrified of a sex war than anything else.


by Crossnerd

Men shouldn’t be allowed to own guns. Race is irrelevant.

What about trans woman, especially ones that aren't on any hormone therapy?


by formula72

I'd personally be more terrified of a sex war than anything else.

Crossnerd's misandric silliness notwithstanding, it would be virtually impossible for this to happen for psychological reasons. Biological sex is not a category that humans are psychologically hardwired to form competing "identity tribes" to fight over resources.

Indeed, for most of human history following a tribal conquest the men of the losing tribe would be killed, enslaved, driven out etc. and the women would become mates of the conquering force; with little friction. And this is a fairly consistent pattern among social mammals.


by Dunyain

Crossnerd's misandric silliness notwithstanding, it would be virtually impossible for this to happen for psychological reasons. Biological sex is not a category that humans are psychologically hardwired to form competing "identity tribes" to fight over resources. Indeed, for most of human history following a tribal conquest the men of the losing tribe would be killed, enslave

That’s certainly one theory of what life was like in prehistoric times (which is the bulk of “human history”), but I’m not aware of any consensus on that.

I also think that you’re just wrong that men and women aren’t prone to fight over resources or form distinct and opposing cultural identities. It’s just that men have been so good throughout history of winning that war and dictating terms upon women without much ability for recourse from women.


by Luciom

8th canceled post , can't answer that without risking a ban

One has to walk on eggshells on certain topics.

A guaranteed way to be well received here is to accuse Republicans of being Nazis as often as possible.

The fact that it's mostly lefties who have profanity-laced rants shows that they are emotionally feeble-minded.

Those are my opinions. Your mileage may vary.


by Dunyain

Crossnerd's misandric silliness notwithstanding, it would be virtually impossible for this to happen for psychological reasons. Biological sex is not a category that humans are psychologically hardwired to form competing "identity tribes" to fight over resources. Indeed, for most of human history following a tribal conquest the men of the losing tribe would be killed, enslave


by Crossnerd

Men shouldn’t be allowed to own guns. Race is irrelevant.

Should women be allowed to own guns?


by formula72

Lol at arguing over which race sucks more for shootings. You people created this mess.

Cordie went out with 97% of mass shooters are white, and i just wanted him to back off from that outreageous, objectively false and deranged claim. He didn't so i kept at it. If/when he admits he has written a shockingly racist, completly absurd and made up stat, i can stop at any time


by Luciom

Cordie went out with 97% of mass shooters are white, and i just wanted him to back off from that outreageous, objectively false and deranged claim. He didn't so i kept at it. If/when he admits he has written a shockingly racist, completly absurd and made up stat, i can stop at any time

This sounds like Coordi


So

back to the incident in Dundee, Scotland that Luciom was convinced was a good example of poor behaviour from immigrants:

by Luciom

in other news, scotland has a new hero a 14y old girl who took out a knife and a axe to fend off 2 immigrants that were following her and her 12y sister recording them.

but today...



by jalfrezi

Soback to the incident in Dundee, Scotland that Luciom was convinced was a good example of poor behaviour from immigrants

There is no reason to believe the police in these occasions after the counteless times they lied, even for years, to cover for criminal immigrants in the UK.

They completly lost all credibility and given there was a video, that's more credible than anything they say until and unless they present hard proof.

And the request to stop discussing the topic and basically to be forced to believe them is obscenely fascist as well. Urge not to speculate? what the actual ****?

At the end in this specific case they might be correct, but the onus of proof is entirely on them , again, especially after the video.

Btw they almost never charge minor immigrants under 14 for exceptionally far more severe violations than brandishing a weapon in self defense against adults approaching after you told them to go away (which is incredible it is a crime to begin with, but LOL-UK laws).

And that alone is already proof of a 2 tier system that directly and systematically punishes natives far more than immigrants, and which is monstrous.


And what likelihood do you think there was of a random Bulgarian couple threatening a 14 year old girl and her sister, really?

You’re just a muck raking racist PoS.


by formula72

I'd personally be more terrified of a sex war than anything else.


Secret weapon to winning the war of the sexes:

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by coordi

Good luck getting the right wing media machine to not jump on every shooting that involves anyone not white, cis, or lib

bonus points if they are a non white trans liberal thats like their holy grail

They figured out more about this person in 20 minutes than we've learned about Thomas Crooks in the last year

No one "figured out" anything. This person was terminally online, had their own Youtube channel, and posted a manifesto. It is actually the opposite. They are literally expunging this person's social media and doing everything they can to bury everything we know about him. Like the other trans shooters with manifestos.


by coordi

Good luck getting the right wing media machine to not jump on every shooting that involves anyone not white, cis, or lib

bonus points if they are a non white trans liberal thats like their holy grail

They figured out more about this person in 20 minutes than we've learned about Thomas Crooks in the last year

Yes and its not like CNN will speculate on a shooter hoping to heck they are white

The shooter is trans with serious mental health issues. Sadly if someone had reported him after all the videos maybe it could have been stopped. Also did he/she live at home do parents not notice you bought a ton of guns


by lozen

The shooter is trans with serious mental health issues. Sadly if someone had reported him after all the videos maybe it could have been stopped. Also did he/she live at home do parents not notice you bought a ton of guns

No no no, 2nd amendment rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


by biggerboat

No no no, 2nd amendment rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey as a CDN I think the amount of guns in the USA is nuts and I get the second amendment but the idea was guns were a right to protect you against an authoritarian government . NO gun will do that . The guys that wrote the document never could have anticipated drones, AR 15's . If you were to interpret that literally than why cant a citizen own a tank or rocket launcher

80 % of your country supports gun laws that are reasonable heck there used to be a time when the NRA was about gun safety. Though even some democrats are against removing the second amendment as they could not win their seat

Sadly the gun manufacturers lobby is as strong as the drug manufacturers and other lobby groups

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