President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
Your responses come across as quite harsh. Just to clarify, Black Lives Matter began in 2013 following the acquittal of George Zimmerman, who fatally shot an unarmed teenager, Trayvon Martin. According to Wikipedia, 36 people lost their lives in connection to BLM protests. In contrast, 1,365 people reportedly died due to police violence in 2024. I’m not speaking on behalf of BL
that includes a lot of justified shootings. Are you of the belief that police should never shoot anyone ever, even people actively attempting to use violence against police?
It’d be better to isolate the unjustified shootings.
that includes a lot of justified shootings. Are you of the belief that police should never shoot anyone ever, even people actively attempting to use violence against police?
It’d be better to isolate the unjustified shootings.
It's a been a long while since i saw an unjustified shooting tbh. Note: all armed targets are fair targets. The unarmed ones aren't necessarily unfair targets, it depends.
Even the slightest threat of violence toward law enforcement fully justifies lethal force. Everyone in the presence of law enforcement ordering them something should just fully comply, failing to do so deserves lethal force being used, in a country with guns easily available.
Police shouldn't "assess risks", when anyone can be armed, you have to treat every one as if he was armed and willing to shoot to kill.
that includes a lot of justified shootings. Are you of the belief that police should never shoot anyone ever, even people actively attempting to use violence against police?
It’d be better to isolate the unjustified shootings.
If we really want to compare apples to apples, the most widely accepted estimate says that about 3% of arrest related deaths (ARDs) lead to charges against the officer, and only about 25% of those end in convictions. Even if we go with a conservative number like 1,000 ARDs per year, which is only half the real estimate, that’s 10,000 over a decade. At 0.75%, that’s around 750 cases resulting in murder or manslaughter charges.
It’s also worth noting that out of the 36 deaths tied to BLM protests, excluding the Rittenhouse, 6 were actually caused by police. And of all 36 deaths, only 3 resulted in murder or equivalent convictions.
That said, it’s not really a fair comparison. We’re looking at total numbers, but there are far more interactions between the public and police than between protesters and the public. Still, I’d personally argue that police are more likely to use violence than people who are out demonstrating for peace. At least, that’s been true in my own experience.
I hope you understand that i keep my preferences separated from my photo of what reality is.
Real life in the societies we live in, does put a price tag on life. I don't always agree with the methods, or the amount. But that's what we are living in. Today. No matter your preferences.
Yes i know a MINORITY disagrees. That doesn't change my claims.
lol.... buddy, nobody does.
So I guess you didn't understand my point. Because I can give tons of examples where you're wrong. The issue is, you worship money, and because of that, it colors your entire world view. You make incorrect hypothesis about human nature, because you're projecting your own internal broken value system.
I can guarantee you, that if you asked a million people in person, “Is killing a person worse than destroying a billion dollars of property?”, would emphatically say yes, of course human life comes first. Morally and emotionally that’s how humans are wired.
But not you. You've shown who you are in this forum, and you've convinced yourself, through some twisted logic, that you are the majority opinion.
What’s amazing is the right keep screaming we want minimal federal government in our business , we need guns to fight tyrannical federal government ,etcCan you imagine Biden or Obama doing this in Texas for example , the scream it would provoque in the republicans camp ….The hypocrisie and the entitlement republicans believe they deserve while complaining on others is just am
As they say.... fascism sucks.... unless it's my fascism.
It's a been a long while since i saw an unjustified shooting tbh. Note: all armed targets are fair targets. The unarmed ones aren't necessarily unfair targets, it depends.Even the slightest threat of violence toward law enforcement fully justifies lethal force. Everyone in the presence of law enforcement ordering them something should just fully comply, failing to do so deserve
I would say it’s a good rule of thumb that you should always comply with police officers. I don’t think it’s a good rule to say that if someone doesn’t comply with a police officer then they should immediately be gunned down if that’s what you’re saying.
Apparently, besides calling off staff and not officially transcribing the meeting, Trump and Putin also called off their interpreters for the first part of their "summit".
Police shouldn't "assess risks", when anyone can be armed, you have to treat every one as if he was armed and willing to shoot to kill.
Police officers only have the same right to use deadly force that other citizens have, and on the same conditions (self-defence or the defence of others against a deadly threat), and they have to answer to the courts.
flying a b-2 bomber over Putin's head is the sickest alpha dog move out there.
Police officers only have the same right to use deadly force that other citizens have, and on the same conditions (self-defence or the defence of others against a deadly threat), and they have to answer to the courts.
That's simply absurd of a claim. they should have very different standards, given their interactions regularly are with people, most of us meet only once or twice in his life is unlucky.
When you deal with the worst elements of society on a daily basis, it's simply absurd to impose the same standards of conducts, because the a priori probabilities of horrible behavior are orders of magnitude different.
That many countries in the west decided to follow what you write, is an indictment of us, as a culture. A failed, emasculated society that un-learnt how to deal with domestic enemies.
That's simply absurd of a claim. they should have very different standards, given their interactions regularly are with people, most of us meet only once or twice in his life is unlucky.When you deal with the worst elements of society on a daily basis, it's simply absurd to impose the same standards of conducts, because the a priori probabilities of horrible behavior are orders
Were societies of the past really better than present day societies at dealing with “domestic enemies”? For some reason I suspect there was still a bunch of organized crime, piracy, murders, theft, rape, etc, and likely at higher rates than the present.
I’m pretty sure it takes more then that for Putin to be impressed .
It wouldn’t even surprised me Putin knows more about what the USA has for weapons then trump knows …
What’s amazing is the right keep screaming we want minimal federal government in our business , we need guns to fight tyrannical federal government ,etcCan you imagine Biden or Obama doing this in Texas for example , the scream it would provoque in the republicans camp ….The hypocrisie and the entitlement republicans believe they deserve while complaining on other
This to me is the biggest lol of all time. Americans are just such hypocrites. Literally everything Trump does would be met with disgust and mass resistance if a Democrat did it. From his bullshit coin to the diddling of kids to the blatant and obvious corruption and financial gains. How is anyone looking at the Intel situation and go ''yeah totally fine what's happening there''.
Luciom probably the only one in the world to somehow justify it all. But he's Italian so fascism is in his blood.
American soldiers on their knees rolling out a red carpet for a tyrant. At least most WW2 veterans are dead and don’t have to see this absolute embarrassment
It's a been a long while since i saw an unjustified shooting tbh. Note: all armed targets are fair targets. The unarmed ones aren't necessarily unfair targets, it depends.
I think I disagree with this more than anything you've ever posted.
People choose to be police officers. Their job is to protect the public. Police officers have to access risks, otherwise many innocent folks will die.
If someone isn't willing and able to assess risks, they have no business being police officers.
I would say it’s a good rule of thumb that you should always comply with police officers. I don’t think it’s a good rule to say that if someone doesn’t comply with a police officer then they should immediately be gunned down if that’s what you’re saying.
Sadly, I believe that's exactly what he is saying in no uncertain terms.
This to me is the biggest lol of all time. Americans are just such hypocrites. Literally everything Trump does would be met with disgust and mass resistance if a Democrat did it. From his bullshit coin to the diddling of kids to the blatant and obvious corruption and financial gains. How is anyone looking at the Intel situation and go ''yeah totally fine what's happening there'
How bout all these chuds taking turns going on Fox News to whine about how they’re being cancelled cuz of their politics and trump telling all the world that his decision to give out kennedy center honors (which inexplicably is now his choice) was done based on the politics of the recipient?
What’s amazing is the right keep screaming we want minimal federal government in our business , we need guns to fight tyrannical federal government ,etcCan you imagine Biden or Obama doing this in Texas for example , the scream it would provoque in the republicans camp ….The hypocrisie and the entitlement republicans believe they deserve while complaining on others is just am
I think the nugget of truth here, or the reasons that some people arm themselves to the teeth (either incorrectly or not) is that from luciom to Nut Nut, the world is flooded with tyrannical mother****ers who want to control others. Some of them just know when to shut up.
It would certainly be a bonus if that tyrannical dipshit shared more of your beliefs than your opponents, in which case it's turn you head and enjoy the show, which is what both ends have been doing for about 10 years, but the fact remains that we could very easily, as we see now, enter a time world where a lot of the things we take for granted or assume couldn't happen, could take place.
Because the majority of the countries, even today are less tyrannical than the US, and the overwhelming majority of civilizations in human history were much worse than today. But that could change obviously. And we are kind of at a fragile highpoint rn.
I think the nugget of truth here, or the reasons that some people arm themselves to the teeth (either incorrectly or not) is that from luciom to Nut Nut, the world is flooded with tyrannical mother****ers who want to control others.
It's interesting that people see someone who wants to put a ceiling on pollution is considered a tyrannical mother****er.
We have all kinds of laws which everyone is happy to acquiesce to. The right to murder, rape and steal for example. Are those laws considered tyrannical ?
Which policies have I suggested which you find tyrannical ?
