President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by checkraisdraw

You realize that by taking this to the logical extreme, so long as leftists continue to exist you are justified in mass murdering them, right?That’s a pretty disgusting ethos and makes me wonder what is even worth preserving in the society you want. Because for me if I have to go against every single principle that I have in order to win, there’s nothing worth winni

No because mass murdering them isn't legal.

But we are completely justified to use all the constitutional powers of the state when we have them with the priority of damaging leftists as the most important and moral things that can be done with power, hopefully to the point they never recover.

Which is why USAID cuts, NPR cuts, college fund cuts and so on and on are very good choices. They go directly at the power ganglia controlled by the left and cut their bloodlines.

We are 6 months out of 48 in and some stuff has be done already. A lot more has to be done. A lot more..but there is hope because for the first time since I was born someone is treating radical leftism as an actual domestic enemy of western civilization, the way everyone should treat it.

And btw it's going far far better than I had thinked. I thought trump would have disregard project 25 structural attempts to eradicate the cancer of leftism, both for inability and lack of interest.

Instead he delivered immensely more than i could ever have hoped on that regards, and it's only in 6 months.


USAID wasn't controlled by the left, it was controlled by whichever administration was currently in power. The Trump administration could be using it right now to help further their agenda overseas if they wanted to.

And even if you think NPR is biased, the cuts aren't going to result in a loss of their power. They only receive about 1% of their budget from the federal government.

Most of the federal funding for public broadcasting goes to individual stations, mostly in rural areas where not many other radio stations can be heard, and most of those areas support Trump.


by Luciom

No because mass murdering them isn't legal.But we are completely justified to use all the constitutional powers of the state when we have them with the priority of damaging leftists as the most important and moral things that can be done with power, hopefully to the point they never recover.Which is why USAID cuts, NPR cuts, college fund cuts and so on and on are very good choi

Everything Trump has done is cutting ofd our nose to spite our face. He cut hundreds of billions of dollars to health research, and now we are losing out on the top scientists in the world wanting to come here.

You libertarian psychos always act like if we remove American dominance it will be replaced by nothing. No, it will be replaced by China. Ironically you’re the one most helping the global communist project with your myopic viewpoint about foreign policy.

Anyway, I’m still waiting for what the radical left’s violence has to do with the Washington Redskins. lol


by chillrob

USAID wasn't controlled by the left, it was controlled by whichever administration was currently in power. The Trump administration could be using it right now to help further their agenda overseas if they wanted to.And even if you think NPR is biased, the cuts aren't going to result in a loss of their power. They only receive about 1% of their budget from the federal governme

I think the thing I find most ludicrous about this whole wealth redistribution in the name of ‘small government’ bullshit is if you really thought NPR, PBS, DOE, etc etc etc was really a woke leftist blah blah blah, you now control the government. You can install sycophants to tilt all of that to your favor if you really wanted to like you did by giving ****ing ICE a bloated budget to scare browns

The idea that you would rather abolish it than remake it in the same bill where you literally expanded the deficit but cut taxes for rich people and corporations shows how deeply unserious the whole cause is. I would almost rather prefer turning PBS into far right propaganda cuz at least in that scenario this whole platitude of bullshit was genuine


Obviously Trump’s bullshit with Washington’s team name is just your typical distraction, but I am curious if the ownership group uses this as an excuse to move the team

Which would be quite hilarious


by StoppedRainingMen

I think the thing I find most ludicrous about this whole wealth redistribution in the name of ‘small government’ bullshit is if you really thought NPR, PBS, DOE, etc etc etc was really a woke leftist blah blah blah, you now control the government. You can install sycophants to tilt all of that to your favor if you really wanted to like you did by giving ****ing ICE a bloated bu

They're also trying to shut down Radio Liberty / Radio Free Europe / Asia, etc., despite their being completely controlled by the government. Instead of just stopping whatever they thought the left wing bias has been, they want to shut it down and end what is a fairly inexpensive program that increases US soft power and encourages those who would like regime change in its rivals.


by StoppedRainingMen

Obviously Trump’s bullshit with Washington’s team name is just your typical distraction, but I am curious if the ownership group uses this as an excuse to move the team

Which would be quite hilarious

Move them here to Portland and call them the "Left Coast Never-Trumpers". That would get me to take an interest in professional sports.


by Luciom

No because mass murdering them isn't legal.But we are completely justified to use all the constitutional powers of the state when we have them with the priority of damaging leftists as the most important and moral things that can be done with power, hopefully to the point they never recover.Which is why USAID cuts, NPR cuts, college fund cuts and so on and on are very good choi

If radical leftism was so present , strong , even « inhumane » and violent in the western civilization as u implying , pretty surprising u are still alive today and furthermore , are even able to maintain a hatred narrative like yourself…


by StoppedRainingMen

Obviously Trump’s bullshit with Washington’s team name is just your typical distraction, but I am curious if the ownership group uses this as an excuse to move the team

Which would be quite hilarious

He shouldn't be getting involved but he is correct about returning them to their rightful name. It's time to put a stop to the woke left attempt to pussify this country.


by StoppedRainingMen

I think the thing I find most ludicrous about this whole wealth redistribution in the name of ‘small government’ bullshit is if you really thought NPR, PBS, DOE, etc etc etc was really a woke leftist blah blah blah, you now control the government. You can install sycophants to tilt all of that to your favor if you really wanted to like you did by giving ****ing ICE a bloated bu

I can tell you that ICE is about to escalate things significantly in the coming weeks.


by mongidig

He shouldn't be getting involved but he is correct about returning them to their rightful name. It's time to put a stop to the woke left attempt to pussify this country.

As angry as I am at people like this I also feel bad for them. It’s a ****ing sports team bro. Shut the **** up.


by chillrob

Well it's simple, "businesses should be free" until Lucy's say so.


by checkraisdraw

Everything Trump has done is cutting ofd our nose to spite our face. He cut hundreds of billions of dollars to health research, and now we are losing out on the top scientists in the world wanting to come here.You libertarian psychos always act like if we remove American dominance it will be replaced by nothing. No, it will be replaced by China. Ironically you’re the one

Bold would be true if I was among those people claiming the USA should stop being interventionist.

But I don't. U do agree that if the USA didn't bomb the houthis and Iran that would be wrong, and the void would be filled eventually by China.

I disagree that America dominance is based on public funding of base health research though.

Thankfully Trump did bomb both groups though.

As for the radical violence pressuring the redskins, it was widely reported at the timing that it was the BLM looting and pillaging of tens of cities that caused it. It was July 2020 after all, peak wokeness.

Democrat sponsored widespread political violence caused major companies to go woke in an attempt to avoid being targeted by the rabid mobs (remember when they started putting all-black squares on social media?), and those same companies pressured the redskins to drop the name or lose sponsorships (Nike et al).

That's what the press reported at the time (except they said "BLM protests" did that, not riots, because of the "mostly peaceful" gaslighting).


by StoppedRainingMen

I think the thing I find most ludicrous about this whole wealth redistribution in the name of ‘small government’ bullshit is if you really thought NPR, PBS, DOE, etc etc etc was really a woke leftist blah blah blah, you now control the government. You can install sycophants to tilt all of that to your favor if you really wanted to like you did by giving ****ing ICE a bloated bu

Cuts to NPR USAID and so on weren't because of the deficit. That's the low level excuse used in some cases to attempt to justify it to some centrists.

You can install sycophants when it's your time to govern but that's not a fix, that's only temporary. Because if you leave the structure in play, especially the core civil servants that are all leftist, they are ready to go back to their usual game the day democrats win elections.

Democrats are far far better than republicans at installing blood-sucking operations in government and at benefitting from them. Republicans shutting them down instead of attempting to do the same as in the past is simply the acknowledgement of that asymmetry.

I mean it's not like the first time trump governs, is it?

He did try the "normal" spoil system in his first term. He did try to install an anti-federal intervention at the DoE in his first time. and roll back some leftist absurdities about title IX and other stuff.

Didn't work at all because as soon as Biden was in charge he reverted everything to the dem-controlled state it was pre -trump.

If instead the message you give to people interested in a public service career in leftist fields is you will ruin their career if you win elections, then you don't have as many leftists willing to become career civil servants.

And when democrats win they can't easily fix it. Quality people won't go back to public jobs abandoning good private sector ones if they know everything they build can be undone as soon as a new-era republican wins back.

So the tldr is republicans figured out democrats are far better than they could ever be at using state capacity to benefit their own political tribe, so their solution is to dismantle state capacity in all fields where democrats have that advantage


by Luciom

Bold would be true if I was among those people claiming the USA should stop being interventionist.But I don't. U do agree that if the USA didn't bomb the houthis and Iran that would be wrong, and the void would be filled eventually by China.I disagree that America dominance is based on public funding of base health research though.Thankfully Trump did bomb both groups though.As

Widely reported by whom? I don't remember hearing anything like that, and the BLM protests had nothing to do with Native Americans.

And again, the "Democrat sponsored" political violence is BS. Are you one of the crazies who thinks people are getting paid to protest (or riot)?
Because that's what the word "Sponsored" implies.

Even if you don't think that, none of the protests that I know of were organized by the Democratic Party, and I'm sure no Democratic leaders were calling for violence. Really I don't remember any even calling for protest, but that may have happened.

Do you just not believe me when I tell you that the people organizing the protests do not consider themselves to be Democrats? Most of the participants don't either. The ones who got violent considered themseves to be socialists, or anarchists, or members of the Judean People's Front, or whatever name they decided to call themseves that week.

Most hate the Democrats as much as they hate the Republicans, if not more. You realize that many on the left do, right? Do you think the left-wingers in this forum are Democrats? The ones who even say they hate liberals? That is the attitude of most of the protestors and I'm sure nearly all of the rioters.

Even the young people in the general left-wing population don't consider themselves to be Democrats. And they mostly wouldn't even be voting for them as the lessor of two evils.

These kids don't vote because they think the system is crooked (and they're correct to a good extent).
I know these people. I go to events in Portland and Seattle where these people speak publicly, or just talk amongst themselves.

I don't know where exactly you're getting your information, or if you're just making assumptions, but I'm telling you they are incorrect.

Your posts on the subject make as much sense as if I tried to tell you about fine details of Italian politics and then repeated them over and over despite your correcting me.

But I would never do that, as I am sure you know more about those details than I do. But I know more about this than you do, and more than any right wing politician does, and even more than the national right wing news organizations do. Although some of those likely do know the truth as well, they just deliberately lie about it for political points.

And by the way, the protests were mostly peaceful. What evidence do you have to make you think they weren't. I live in Portland, maybe the place most villainized by the American right in the recent past.

In 2020 I lived in the city, even in a historically black inner city neighborhood. Many of the protest marches began at a high school a block away from my home. I could hear them gathering and talking through bullhorns there and after they started marching. The most violence that ever happened in my neighborhood was a few broken windows in corporate businesses.

There were massive numbers of people participating. The amount of people who sometimes got violent at the end of the marches were very small in comparison. And I agree with you that they should have been handled differently than they were.
But the city was not burning, and the city was not taken over by anyone.


by Luciom

Cuts to NPR USAID and so on weren't because of the deficit. That's the low level excuse used in some cases to attempt to justify it to some centrists.You can install sycophants when it's your time to govern but that's not a fix, that's only temporary. Because if you leave the structure in play, especially the core civil servants that are all leftist, they are ready to go back t

So do you think that Republicans are too stupid to do this as well as Democrats, or do you think they're too virtuous to want to try?

Since they obviously aren't too virtuous to use other types of state power to benefit their tribe, I will have to assume you think they're too stupid to do so without further explanation.


I wonder what Trump supporters have to say about this ....

Trump threatening to hold up a stadium deal unless the Washington franchise reverts to its old name of "Redskins" instead of Commanders.

Can the white supremacism be any more nakedly displayed ?


The cuts to USAID are simple.

Trump's supporters want someone who has the balls to acknowledge that we're going to let poor people in other countries die in an "us vs them" scenario.

Unfortunately for Trump's supporters, they don't understand that he's willing to let poor people in the US die as well. Being on the correct side of the border isn't the protection people imagine it to be.


by mongidig

That's very xenophobic.

Toxic folks like SRM don't care.


by checkraisdraw

I mean your method just serves to make him look like a victim, my method gets him to admit that he thinks little kids massacring each other would be morally justified, if not morally perfect. lol

While I applaud you for destroying his logic and reasoning, luciom’s adolescent, half-baked political theories have been repeated ad nauseam here. Giving him another opportunity to rail on about the leftist violence that must be destroyed with state violence to save humanity over a sports team name and logo is akin to giving oxygen to a fire. Maybe if we all ignore or not engage with our little fire starter, like we do with Victor, the discourse here would not be stuck in this endless loop.

But you do you. I did enjoy watching another dismantling of his sophomoric political rhetoric.


Cliff Notes: PLEASE PUT HIM ON IGNORE

I'd also add please ignore any responses to him


I've never put anyone on ignore but I'm gonna try it out.
Mostly because on top of the hate, it's pretty much like talking to a chatbot.


Holy shit, I'm using the new forum version and ignore completely remove the user, it doesn't show any post at all(no bs this post is hidden because...), no option to unspoil.
This is beautifull.

edit: you don't see the quotes also!!!!


by jalfrezi

Lots of non-US here itt thanks.

Personally I would have thought it was obvious my post was a dig at an anti-immigrant nativist fascist devoting his life to dictating how Americans should live from another continent, but evidently i was wrong


by mongidig

He shouldn't be getting involved but he is correct about returning them to their rightful name. It's time to put a stop to the woke left attempt to pussify this country.

Rightful name? Should the Jets also return to the Titans? How about the Guardians returning to Spiders?

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