President Donald Trump

I don't understand at all how the rest of this post relates to "businesses should be free".

Do regular people and the media in Italy typically use what is in the US usually called "military time" (24 hour clock with no usage of am or pm)?

Yes , almost everyone in Italy uses the 24 hours. Not sure about all other European countries tbh.

Because it would be better if they were free.

But if in a 2 party state one party forces businesses to comply with that party cultural, political issues when in power, the other side can't just accept that.

Otherwise all businesses will just predispose themselves to satisfy the violent side even when the non violent one is governing because the violent side can always come back to power.

When facing violence, the only thing that works is a lot more.viplence until you have secured the fact that the other side can never again wage violence. There is no other working option

This is literal toddler level logic. “He started it mom!”

Again I know you’re lying and you just want to justify using the state to reinforce your own position with violence while having the pretense of caring about freedom, so I don’t take it seriously. But it does speak to how stupid you think your own side is to think they will buy this stupidity.

What state power or non-state power was applied to violently make sports teams change their names?

You’re just full of it.

Toddlers, when they don't lie, are absolutely right. It's horrific when guilt is shared even if it's only on one side.and no , no reaction is ever too much, unlimited reactions are fully morally justified against any violence until you guarantee that source of violence can never again hurt you.

Toddlers that blame everything on the side that started it are completly, absolutely right, and parents that don't try to analyze exactly who was the guilty party (and almost always It is only one) are wrong and create monsters.

Leftists started everything bad in society. Some can be reversed, some can only be fought by going allin on leftist ethos against them.

As with business, universities. As long as they take a single dollar directly or indirectly, when the right has any power it has to wage it in full force against colleges to have them behave in ways that promote rightwing ideology. Because the left does it every single time, and you lose power if you don't.

But my point was that they weren't forced, or even coerced, into the name change. I don't think they would have suffered any significant revenue loss had they kept the old name. But this way they get to boost profits by selling a lot of new merchandise.

I think the "create monsters" part is overstated, but I otherwise agree strongly with this. My parents blaming me (or even splitting the blame) for conflicts completely caused by my younger brother when we were children led to the two of us having a bad relationship to this day, and made a large contribution to my decision to completely cut my parents out of my life soon after reaching adulthood.

Weren't they? With widespread societal violence defended by democrats and all democrat media against racism becoming a direct threat to anyone who didn't comply? Should they have waited for riots at their headquarters?

They were violently threatened. Cities were literally burning with democrats (including Harris) paying for bail for the violent arsonists and rioters.

You are a few months from a presidential election where the party that has odds in it's favor to win is organizing violent riots against racism, with racism being everything that doesn't fully comply with radical leftist definitions (so your name as well). That's not a violent threat for you?

Kids are taught not to respond with violence because someone started it because if everyone acted that way we would fall into societal chaos. We recognize a nobility in being able to have self-control even when others are acting disreputably, and deal with issues using communication and deal-making rather than violence.

Of course self-defense is justified, but on the societal level it’s only justified when institutions have broken down. You’re not talking about institutions breaking down, you’re talking about people giving their opinions on a football team’s name.

You think that this was the sole and only reason for cutting off your brother? Or was it that your brother, independently of what happened when you got into arguments, is probably a shitty person?

I suspect that if you only say “I don’t care who started it” and didn’t pair that with proper correction and parenting of both kids, of course this will build resentment. At that point though you’re building stuff into the background knowledge such that we’re no longer isolating the principle behind saying “I don’t care who started it”.

Did I miss some violent protests against the Redskins name? The riots in 2020 had nothing to do with that.

I lived most of my adult life in the DC area and there was occasional talk about changing the name but it wasn't considered to be a big deal by any fans.

Also none of the violent protests in the US were organized by Democrats.

The people protesting here in Portland complained just as much about the Democratic mayor as they did about any Republican politicians.

They have been characterized that way by bad-faith efforts by the right wing as a "both sides" retort to the January 6 treason, but I thought you were smart enough not to fall for that lie.

No it would be chaos. It would be better. But it would require constant vigilance because otherwise violence would be used irregularly with the fake justification of "I has the right to use it".

So to avoid misuses, we ban the absolutely morally correct uses, and the absolutely moral pristine feeling that violence is necessary and right when used against injustice.

Basically your culture wants to cut the balls of kids when they are very young, so they are more compliant.

Kids institutions ARE BROKEN DOWN everytime an adult isn't there to witness the details of any altercation and correctly attributing guilt to the actually guilty party, which... IS THE ONE WHO STARTS.

The instant there isn't an adult with proof of what happened, institutions break down for them. Guilt gets shared with immense injustice.

Sometimes guilt gets reversed, when the offended party correctly, morally, healthy, massacred the offending party and gets the guilt.

So you tried to use that metaphor. How does it feel?

Now back to the team that changes it's name because BLM, with explicit democratic sponsorship, is burning down tens of towns... Does that feel unforced to you? Not a result of explicit threats of violence by a political party? Ofc it doesn't, you guys always deny that all "summer of love 2020" violence was inspired and directed and defended by the Democratic party.

But people observed what happened and knew. The Democratic party had unleashed unregulated militias to wage war against the USA and everyone who disagreed with leftist ideals about race. And they even paid bail for the violent criminals implicated.

In that war setting with a party, close to power, explicitly telling you it is ok with sending violent mobs to burn your HQs, you change the name.

And for you that's not a politically motivated choice because of political violence. Ok

Treating this fascist chatbot clown like he’s a real boy remains the funniest **** ever

I didn't say that I cut off my brother, and I don't think he is a terrible person. I meant the resentment of being blamed for things I didn't do made me feel negatively about my brother for my entire childhood so we never had the close relationship I see other brothers having, and that I have with my much younger sister.

It wasn't at all his fault, he was a little kid acting like lots of little kids do, but when I was only myself a child it made me want to keep myself away from him as much as possible.

This is the kind of thing I've always associated with "I don't care who started it". I agree with you that it is good for even the wronged party to be taught not to respond with violence, but it's completely wrong to treat the two parties equally.
If my brother had been made to accept complete responsibility for his actions when we were children, he likely would have much sooner stopped behaving in that way - soon enough for us to develop some kind of childhood bond.

I mean it feels pretty good that you admit that you think it’s good if kids massacre one another (and remember, kids don’t have developed brains so oftentimes the offending party has extremely low levels of moral agency) so long as the one doing the massacring didn’t start it. Yeah it feels like I got you to an absurd morality that most people would look at and think “that sucks dude”.

But congrats on your moral consistency of thinking that kids massacring one another is a preferred outcome. lol

I have always remained consistent with everyone else in the party that said that the peaceful protests are good and the violent protests are bad. It’s often the democratic governors, mayors, and cities that got the violence the worst, because we are more tolerant with protestors and law enforcement. And the bail fund supported by Kamala was a bail fund for nonviolent protestors.

But yes, let’s rehash the BLM debate because you realize you’re losing the Redskins debate.

I mean your method just serves to make him look like a victim, my method gets him to admit that he thinks little kids massacring each other would be morally justified, if not morally perfect. lol

I remain forever emotionally unburdened by a fascist incel with seriously the most evil mindset of anyone who posts in this forum and who has less than zero value to humanity at large posts 200 times a day feeling victimized by my mockery

I’m perfectly happy to go even further with it but when I do my posts get deleted so here we are

Now come on, he even said that was a metaphor. An extreme one, I admit, but I'm sure he wasn't saying that it would have been good for me to murder my little brother.

right ok, so just example number 1,640,6561 of how liberals are absolute psychopaths

Yeah but if you are committed to the principle then the metaphor holds. That’s the whole point of logical consistency tests.

Who's the liberal?

You only victimize yourself with your very low level pre-k12 attitude