President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by Luciom

Why do you keep saying this even after Trump won the highest % of latino and black men votes of any republican in many decades? why do you want to claim the underlying point is racism when trump won with the most diverse coalition ever for a republican? even bringing a black onlyfan model with tatoos on her face to the republican convention?Why do you always, always lie in the

I don't think that racism is the sole explanation for Trumpism. On the other hand, I strongly suspect that a non-trivial percentage of black and Latino men who voted for Trump would agree that he is racist.


It’s absurd to think that Mexican immigrants can’t be propagandized to pull up the ladder behind them and also to dislike Guatemalans or Venezuelan “criminals”

And all permutations of that


by coordi

What a blood bath Sorry if this offends Inso0, but ~50 year old white dudes are literally the ****ing worst

This chart is either meaningless or the creator of the chart doesn't know what a confidence interval is.


by Luciom

This strategy might be nice for you guys to cope with Trump being in power ("his voters are the dumbest!") but is based on an objective lie and as such will not allow you guys to gain meaningful power against someone running on a platform similar to his in the future, because you simply don't want to understand why that platform has decent support among absolutely normal people

Some people just value truth and decency more highly then winning at any cost .
I’ll let you decided which side act like this .
When I was young , many won games or pass school test by cheating and being proud of it , I personally never thought it was ok and today i believe many of them that cheated has it more difficult then me today .


by Rococo

This chart is either meaningless or the creator of the chart doesn't know what a confidence interval is.

Generally the economist is good


Anyone surprised?

The Justice Department is asking that a former police officer found guilty of violating the civil rights of Breonna Taylor in 2020 – when she was shot and killed by police in her Louisville home – be sentenced to one day in jail.


We are so screwed

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5406...

Bove has been the target of numerous letters urging lawmakers to reject his nomination, including 900 former Justice Department attorneys who have accused him of dismantling key functions to keep the department independent from the White House.


The purge continues

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/17...

“If a career prosecutor can be fired without reason, fear may seep into the decisions of those who remain. Do not let that happen,” she wrote. “Fear is the tool of a tyrant, wielded to suppress independent thought. Instead of fear, let this moment fuel the fire that already burns at the heart of this place. A fire of righteous indignation at abuses of power. Of commitment to seek justice for victims. Of dedication to truth above all else.”


by coordi

Its incredibly easy to understand that relentless pathological lying from the right has been effective at not just targeting the cult but also normal people as all forms of media have become slanted towards that particular brand of propaganda.

Many people in the media misunderstand what Trump expects to accomplish with the bolded. For the most part, he isn't trying to pull one over on people. This observation is why several astute observers during Trump's first term parsed the difference between liars and bullshitters and correctly labelled Trump as the latter. (The liar cares what the truth actually is. The bullshitter does not.) Sure, there will be some gullible people who believe everything Trump says, but that isn't the point from Trump's perspective. Not really. The point is to normalize relentless bullshitting. The point is to convince people that every politician bullshits all the time, and therefore you shouldn't take truthfulness into account when evaluating politicians. You should vote for politicians in the same way that you vote for couples on Love Island. That is, you should vote based on who makes you laugh, who is willing to be outrageous, who is willing to attack the people you don't like, etc.

Like most modern authoritarians, Trump is perfectly happy to reign over a highly cynical populace that believes in nothing.


I agree. But how would you explain the term "confidence interval" in the context of that chart?


Trump quote from a few months ago, surprised I didn't hear about it at the time.

"They rigged the election, and I became president."

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DG_DMQ-Rv...


by coordi

It’s absurd to think that Mexican immigrants can’t be propagandized to pull up the ladder behind them and also to dislike Guatemalans or Venezuelan “criminals”

And all permutations of that

and if that happens that's not racism, especially not white supremacy like weez insanely claimed, rather nativism which is utterly different (and even the black panthers shared)


by Rococo

I agree. But how would you explain the term "confidence interval" in the context of that chart?

it's the size of the interval such as the actual value of the trait in the population is in given the imperfect measurement of the poll. You poll something at X and depending on sample size and incidence of the subdemo groups in the overall demography you can define a CI, such that the "true value" of what you polled about would be within X+-CI/2 size 95% of the times


by Rococo

This chart is either meaningless or the creator of the chart doesn't know what a confidence interval is.

I think the "50%" is wrong and it's just 95 as normal


by Montrealcorp

Some people just value truth and decency more highly then winning at any cost .
I’ll let you decided which side act like this .
When I was young , many won games or pass school test by cheating and being proud of it , I personally never thought it was ok and today i believe many of them that cheated has it more difficult then me today .

But it's just not true that the republican voting base has an IQ of 70 lol


by weeeez

But they invited that black onlyfan model with tatoos on her face bro.

Yep which makes them less racist than any republican before in the last 50+ years


by Rococo

I don't think that racism is the sole explanation for Trumpism. On the other hand, I strongly suspect that a non-trivial percentage of black and Latino men who voted for Trump would agree that he is racist.

Weez claimed a specific form of racism *for trump voters*, check what he wrote, which is obviously blatantly false in a disgusting way and the typical obscene claim made by people with TDS


This guy ****ing hates the multi-quote function, eh?


by Luciom

it's the size of the interval such as the actual value of the trait in the population is in given the imperfect measurement of the poll. You poll something at X and depending on sample size and incidence of the subdemo groups in the overall demography you can define a CI, such that the "true value" of what you polled about would be within X+-CI/2 size 95% of the times

I thought it was obvious that I wasn't asking for the general definition of a confidence interval.


by Luciom

Weez claimed a specific form of racism *for trump voters*, check what he wrote, which is obviously blatantly false in a disgusting way and the typical obscene claim made by people with TDS

I obviously disagreed with weez, but your argument was unconvincing and silly, regardless of whether weez was right or wrong.


by Luciom

Yep which makes them less racist than any republican before in the last 50+ years

I honestly don't know how this argument is working in your head. Is the next step in your order of proof an assertion that we know Trump views women as equals of men because he had sex with Stormy Daniels.


by Rococo

I agree. But how would you explain the term "confidence interval" in the context of that chart?

My guess is they are using 50% because there has been such wild variance in polls the last 6 months but 2xing the intervals (~90%) doesn't imply that he might actually have significant approval within the population


by whatthejish

This guy ****ing hates the multi-quote function, eh?

multi-quote has been removed from the "mobile friendly" layout that is default now


by coordi

multi-quote has been removed from the "mobile friendly" layout that is default now

Not sure if you were ironical here, just highlight the part you want and you get a multi quote option pop up .

by coordi

actually

by Rococo

because


Not on a PC

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