President Donald Trump
I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?
So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at
again religious teaching with public money has been impeded by courts.
and btw others states only have to support it because you voted for federal redistribution which is a thing that shouldn't exist at all, it's your choice, just repeal all form of federal welfare, they are all unconstitutional anyway
Yeah "public money"
https://oklahoma.gov/education/newsroom/...
So just receive them for free
again religious teaching with public money has been impeded by courts.
and btw others states only have to support it because you voted for federal redistribution which is a thing that shouldn't exist at all, it's your choice, just repeal all form of federal welfare, they are all unconstitutional anyway
the point isn’t that they want to teach them religion, it’s that their desires for what the education system should look like will make a lot of kids stupid.
rural areas already suffer in terms of poverty and education, if we leave it up to the states many would let kids opt out and basically end up as country yokels because they lost the genetic lottery. it’s a travesty.
the point isn’t that they want to teach them religion, it’s that their desires for what the education system should look like will make a lot of kids stupid.
rural areas already suffer in terms of poverty and education, if we leave it up to the states many would let kids opt out and basically end up as country yokels because they lost the genetic lottery. it’s a travesty.
which you still have to accept as... that's what your constitution says. That states decide not the federal gvmnt, on education.
but even on the merits, after countless trillions spent by the federal gvmnt, democrat New Mexico and republican Oklahoma, among others, suck horribly beyond recognition anyway.
and your typical answer is you need more money and regulations lol.
what would disprove your notion that the federal gvmnt is a positive force in that setting and not an hindrance?
if it's free it's legal, ever heard of the 1a?
Lucio, we don't have to accept this ****. Just like you don't accept anything liberal and go off the rails bitching about liberals constantly, we can do the same.
And we can earmark the bitching for later to change it as soon as possible
Okay well your supreme court argument is nonsense, per usual
And yet there is so major talk about you being a troll. who knows....
All I'm saying is American states are closer to bologna to Italy than Italy to EU.
that's your perception but it's false on it's merits like I said.
I already listed stuff in which American states can diverge massively with no federal opportunity to block them.
Italy is straightjacked by the EU more than Colorado is by the federal gvmnt in many topics.
for example a major issue these days is buildings. we are mandated Europe-wide to only build super efficient buildings (both residential and commercial). Near 0 emissions only, and soon 0 emissions only.
the American federal gvmnt doesn't impose any building code (and can't because if the constitution), do you understand that?
we are mandated to ban single use plastic in Europe, in the USA they can't legislate federally on the topic.
and so on and on the list is really long
Lucio, we don't have to accept this ****. Just like you don't accept anything liberal and go off the rails bitching about liberals constantly, we can do the same.
And we can earmark the bitching for later to change it as soon as possible
I dislike a lot of stuff liberals do but unlike you I don't claim it's unconstitutional if it isn't.
you can complain about trump destroying the DoE as much as you want but you can't complain it's illegal for him to do so just because you hate the DoE being dismantled.
that's where we started if you check back to that. "court rubber stamped"... court allowed something that is blatantly in the power of the executive to happen and everyone who doesn't hate the rule of law should be ok with that decision
I dislike a lot of stuff liberals do but unlike you I don't claim it's unconstitutional if it isn't.you can complain about trump destroying the DoE as much as you want but you can't complain it's illegal for him to do so just because you hate the DoE being dismantled.that's where we started if you check back to that. "court rubber stamped"... court allowed something that is bla
Rubber stamp doesn't mean unconstitutional
It means it was approved with little to no consideration
AKA pencil whipping
Like when an airplane needs an annual inspection and the owner finds a mechanic who will certify it for 500$
Or clearing a peer review that nobody read
education is not an express power of the federal government, listed explicitly.the general welfare clause abuses are infinite ofc, but those words like Madison explained very well just meant that the federal gvmnt could tax to accomplish his specific roles listed elsewhere, not generic stuff.in any case of doubt the 10a applies and everything is solely the purvey of states unle
The Supreme Court has never held that the 10th Amendment requires this sort of narrow reading of the federal government's enumerated powers. In fact, the Supreme Court has held directly to the contrary. But by all means, continue with your Tenther fantasy.
Judges simply do not have the power to stop restructuring of an agency because they think the way it is being done will make the agency incapable of fulfilling it's mandate.That's 100%, exclusively the prerogative of the executive, no other power of the state has a say on how an agency should conduct it's business in organizing terms. At all. In the slightest.You guys keep conf
DOE was created by Jimmy Carter in 1977. His promise to create a DOE during his 1976 campaign helped solidify his support among teacher's unions.
They have always been free to refuse to take federal money and do their own thing. The DoE is not binding. People treat it as some big boogeyman but if you look at the numbers it accounts for less than 10% of all spending on education. They just so happen to target the funds to some of the poorest districts and students that would likely be screwed if it shut down. They also do investigations into civil rights violations.
I honestly don’t know if Luciom knows how the DoE even works.
They have always been free to refuse to take federal money and do their own thing. The DoE is not binding. People treat it as some big boogeyman but if you look at the numbers it accounts for less than 10% of all spending on education. They just so happen to target the funds to some of the poorest districts and students that would likely be screwed if it shut down. They also do
Of course he doesn't. That's why he thinks it's unconstitutional.
education is not an express power of the federal government, listed explicitly.the general welfare clause abuses are infinite ofc, but those words like Madison explained very well just meant that the federal gvmnt could tax to accomplish his specific roles listed elsewhere, not generic stuff.in any case of doubt the 10a applies and everything is solely the purvey of states unle
I don't think the constitution authorizes an Air Force either. And I'm certain it doesn't mention a Space Force. Or a border patrol or immigration service, for that matter.
Amazingly well-written satire, or genuine news article from 2026 inadvertently sent back in time?
Not nearly enough. They have allowed government funding to go to religious schools as long as they're not spent on the actual religion classes.
Of course, no school gets the funding to cover all their bills, and since money is fungible...
In reality government funding is definitely being given to teach religion.
which you still have to accept as... that's what your constitution says. That states decide not the federal gvmnt, on education.but even on the merits, after countless trillions spent by the federal gvmnt, democrat New Mexico and republican Oklahoma, among others, suck horribly beyond recognition anyway.and your typical answer is you need more money and regulations lol.
A start would be some schools refusing federal money and their students still being more educated than those which received it.
that's your perception but it's false on it's merits like I said.I already listed stuff in which American states can diverge massively with no federal opportunity to block them.Italy is straightjacked by the EU more than Colorado is by the federal gvmnt in many topics.for example a major issue these days is buildings. we are mandated Europe-wide to only build super efficient bu
I believe you on these things, and every post you make on the subject makes me wish I lived in the EU.
