Israel/Palestine thread
Think this merits its own thread...
Discuss my fellow 2+2ers..
AM YISRAEL CHAI.
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The Gaza health ministry publishes the names of those killed. So if there were a lot of people claimed dead who turned up alive, then we'd never hear the end of it from the hasbara.
The child murderer is APPALED at the lack of rhetorical respect in this online politics discussion forum!
Why don't you bother to eat a gun?
Careful now. Remember what happened last time, you've been doing quite well lately.
The Gaza health ministry publishes the names of those killed. So if there were a lot of people claimed dead who turned up alive, then we'd never hear the end of it from the hasbara.
What?! Oh man why didn't you say [strike]Hamas[/strike] Gaza health ministry said so? I mean you couldn't get a more unimpeachable source after all...
What?! Oh man why didn't you say [strike]Hamas[/strike] Gaza health ministry said so? I mean you couldn't get a more unimpeachable source after all...
Deal with the argument that their reports are independently verifiable. And the hasbara has never come up with a fake death that is still walking around.
What?! Oh man why didn't you say [strike]Hamas[/strike] Gaza health ministry said so? I mean you couldn't get a more unimpeachable source after all...
I mean the last time I asked you for a better, more unimpeachable source for these numbers you threw a fit and ran away, so....
Deal with the argument that their reports are independently verifiable. And the hasbara has never come up with a fake death that is still walking around.
By whom? The WHO aka PR for CCP's China? The UN who have shown an historical bias toward Israel? The Lancet? Human Rights Watch who have faced their own criticism on various issues? Al Jazeera? Who are these "independently verifiable" bodies?
You are aware the ahem "Gaza health ministry" doesn't differentiate between Hamas combatants and civilians or even provide a cause of death, right? So again why take them at their word? Hasbara means explaining btw and your use of it in a derogatory manner has shades of the term "zio".
By whom? The WHO aka PR for CCP's China? The UN who have shown an historical bias toward Israel? The Lancet? Human Rights Watch who have faced their own criticism on various issues? Al Jazeera? Who are these "independently verifiable" bodies?You are aware the ahem "Gaza health ministry" doesn't differentiate between Hamas combatants and civilians or even provide a cause of deat
All pro-Hamas sources indipendently verified Hamas as a good source! checkmate zionists!
Well, part of it is no one is acting as if all the reports of massacres are true. Probably because they aren’t true. The idea that Israel can be massacring people waiting in bread lines with tanks and machine guns every day for weeks and there is never a shred of real evidence is preposterous. Unfortunately western media playing along with Hamas propaganda like they are i
Propaganda influences how narratives are shaped, but it doesn’t mean everything is false or everything is true. Each situation has its own level of verifiability.
I'd argue that it would be true that Iran want's a nuke to attack Israel, and that people have been successfully propagated into thinking that they just want those nukes like everyone else and to just keep themselves safe. I admit it's a little entertaining to watch but I got to give credit where its due in that regard.
But that doesn't carry over to the killings in Gaza. The internet blackouts there, the Israeli controlled media allowed, sealed territory, the destroyed infrastructure and the current living conditions. It's a seperate issue and have a lot to assume that the extraordinarily high death count is likely to be true, even if we don't have concrete evidence.
Dude, just no. I cant share all intel I've seen, but we do actually share many documents that set forth the strategic plans of the "axes of resistance". You are making up a reality.
Here is a podcast where an Israeli guy who I am assuming is much higher up than you, someone who feels the need to post on a poker forum and insinuate that they have inside knowledge, explains exactly what I am talking about.
https://www.econtalk.org/terrorism-israe...
I highly suggest everyone in this thread, both pro-Pal and pro-Israel, listens to this. It brought me to a much higher understanding of what the more sophisticated understanding from the pro-Israel side is. (Spoiler: his conclusion is basically, "we ain't leaving, so it isn't going to work.")
I wish I could be happy that a psychopathic war criminal got got. but I am sad for all the Palestinians he murdered.
Cite please where the IDF have stated that the Hamas Health Ministry is an unimpeachable source, thanks ever so much.
READ CAREFULLY so you can follow the argument.
The names of the dead are published. So the IDF or Mossad could investigate and identify people who aren't really dead and feed it to the hasbara. They haven't. They are losing the public relations battle, but can't be bothered to deflate the alleged exaggeration of the number of dead.
By whom? The WHO aka PR for CCP's China? The UN who have shown an historical bias toward Israel? The Lancet? Human Rights Watch who have faced their own criticism on various issues? Al Jazeera? Who are these "independently verifiable" bodies?
The WHO is Hamas! Medical journals are Hamas! Human rights orgs are Hamas! Wikipedia is Hamas! Hamas Hamas Hamas!
READ CAREFULLY so you can follow the argument.
The names of the dead are published. So the IDF or Mossad could investigate and identify people who aren't really dead and feed it to the hasbara. They haven't. They are losing the public relations battle, but can't be bothered to deflate the alleged exaggeration of the number of dead.
They're in the middle of a war and have bigger fish to fry than go through a bunch of names. How d'ya know the Hamas Health Ministry isn't just making names up?
Point being they're not a reliable source and they actually are inflating numbers by virtue of the fact that they don't differentiate between civilians and combatants, nor give the cause of death.
And even if the IDF did do this you wouldn't believe it anyway because hasbara/zionists/apartheid blah blah etc etc.
But your inability to back up your claim re the IDF regarding the Hamas health ministry as a reliable source is duly noted.
So Victor assures us there are numerous videos of IDF soldiers sniping Palestinians in bread lines, and then shows 10 videos that dont show IDF soldiers sniping Palestinians in bread lines. Got it.
In other news, word on the street is Trump is teasing Israel normalizing relation with additional Arab countries, most notably Syria. Syria isn't much of a nation yet, but normalizing relations and opening up trade with Israel would be big. I think this tweet sums up the disconnect over why much of the Arab world is making their peace with Israel, while much of the western world being fed misinformation, is going the other way.
That is a still shot from a video allegedly showing a Hamas fighter throwing a fire bomb in an Israel APC and killing 7 IDF soldiers. That is just Victor being Victor.
It has been a rough couple weeks for our boy. Israel and Iran just fought a small war without the IDF taking one military casualty, and the IDF completely destroying Iran's air defense and taking control of the skies without losing a single jet.
Victors got to celebrate whatever victories he can.
I was just showing the IDF soldier getting got in response to you talking **** and loling at Ramy who lost almost his entire family to the genocidal monsters that you support.
altho, I guess we have no idea where that bomb went! we have no idea who was in the tank! it could have been ai! Pallyworld!
