President Donald Trump

Mad that his ̶s̶e̶c̶r̶e̶t̶ "transparent" b̶r̶i̶b̶e̶ "gift" isn't being celebrated, and people are upset he's getting very rich while cutting all their help for no reason.

BJ will help with the mental gymnastics.

My experience with Afrikaners are definitely that Trump deciding they’re the only refugees worth bringing in is the most on brand **** I’ve ever seen

It’s only been 4 months into a 48 month (at least) term. I imagine at this rate by early next year at latest enough things will have happened that we’ll just be way too ****ing accepting of the idea that america is for white people and if that’s not you you’re only here as long as they feel generous about it

I have extended family in South Africa who I’ve had nothing to do with for half a century, thank god.

Biden let people in as "refugees" who he thought would vote for him. Trump is just running the same play.

In before he recognizes Rhodesia and tries to bring it back.

Beyond hilarious you say that since refugees, you know, don’t have voting rights

But I fully expect the white apartheid apologists to have citizenship rushed to them so Virginia will go red

I'm going to need you to tell me you are joking.

No more gathering wealth after age 40 would be a feature, not a bug.

You really haven't thought about this much, have you?

I suspect the feeling is mutual. 😀

I knew a South African girl. She was delightful, but also somewhat racist so there’s that.

I think there’s a bit of selection bias here when you start inviting people who consider themselves “refugees” of anti-white racism in South Africa. I doubt they represent the general population of white South Africans. You may get a few thousand with a victim complex but I doubt it will be significant.

This feels like a massive understatement

Every single person going from South Africa to Virginia is going to be a white person who feels South Africa is just way too black and are leaving an entire country to flee from the blackness

There is not a single one of these ‘refugees’ who isn’t a total piece of ****

Oh yeah absolutely.

What I’m saying is that I expect a few thousand white South Africans in total. For the most part, white South Africans are still well above black South Africans in terms of wealth and status in South Africa, so I imagine the only people interested will be absolute insane racist loons.

The vast majority are like a little racist, but nothing too significant since they are middle to upper class, educated people, like the friend I knew.

Probably. Last time I saw any of them I was a young teen when they blatently cheated at cricket (this is far worse than it sounds) and then accused my side of being bad losers. They were then reminded that cheating people out of things is part of their heritage which is why no countries would play sport against SA. They weren’t happy to be reminded of this.

interesting how the same people in this forum who were pro having as many refugees as possible even if uneducated and poor and with values incompatible with western society , start having problems when the refugees are higher income and education and with the same values as western people.

it's like the only purpose of being in favour of unlimited quantities of refugees was the erosion of western civilization

Same values as western people, wtf that even means?
I don't have the same values as you and I'm a ''western people''.
What does it mean??

In fairness he said values incompatible with western society, not individuals in western society.

I'm very comfortable saying that stoning people for adultery, homosexuality or blasphemy, stoning people in general, honour killings, forcing women to cover up their faces in public, etc. etc. are all "values incompatible with western society". To what extent immigrants import these values with them might be open for debate, but the fact that they are incompatible with Western society really isn't.

Pretending that there aren't societies out there that practice some straight up medieval shit, usually in the name of religion, doesn't benefit anyone. Reason number 956587 why religion is a cancer on the human race.

You might not share identical values to me but we are closer than either of us are with people from a country where 99% of baby girls get infibulated, just as an example.

Or any country that is explicitly theocratic and the majority agrees with the idea that the state should force a specific religion morality with the law.

If 88% of a country population agrees with the Sharia being the "secular law" as well, then you should be extremely careful taking people in from that country and only take in people who are in the 12% minority, i hope you understand that.

Agreeing with the Sharia applying to every resident is fully incompatible with our countries, i hope we can agree with that: a person thinking that is a direct threat to our countries and should never have a chance of becoming a citizen of our countries, nor should his children who he will be able to educated with those horrific values inimical to what we consider important.

Unless, again, the actual reason to take people in is to erode the special set of cultural values that define our current societies

Do you agree that any history on social media of a person agreeing with the above behaviours (and/or infibulation, women not being allowed to drive and so on) should permanently make that person "persona non grata" in every western country? exclude them from relocation in our countries and so on?

Btw it's religion but not exclusively religion. There is tribal underpinning behind religion, religion being often the excuse. For ex infibulation, one of the most horrific behavioural practices worldwide, is justified by religion but is not actually a religious tenet which is why only specific islamic countries use it , and not all of them.

I don't know that I'd be using anyone's social media postings to decide anything related to immigration status, unless they are a public personality with some influence on others perhaps. But I'll admit it's not something to which I've given a huge amount of thought. For example, I guess is someone is openly calling for jihad on Twitter, that's probably not a person you want living in your country. I certainly wouldn't be out protesting if someone with a history of religious fundamentalist social media posting (any religion) were denied a visa anywhere for that reason alone. Same rule for batshit crazy Christian fundamentalists in the US, for example, other countries just shouldn't let them in.

And then add to that any similar thought in favor of violent collectivism and we are fairly close to what we should do.

Hammer and sickle , or communist propaganda = banned forever from our countries.

Then add the fact that all behavioural propensities of that kind are significantly inheritable (genetically) so ban all blood relatives as well.

Ok, pipe down there champ, this is where we part ways. I wasn't signing up to implementing a rule for religion only to then call politics I dislike "religion", nor for apportioning collective responsibility. You can take that **** back to North Korea, the place best compatible with your values.