Tom Dwan - the missing man
Tom Dwan - the missing man
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Tom Dwan - the missing man

How convenient is it that he just falls off the face of the earth after issuing and bailing half way through a 50k hand

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03 June 2015 at 12:38 AM
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by ScotchOnDaRocks m

You really wouldnÂ’t mind being held against your will in a mental institution in a foreign country?

Yeah sure it might not be a Turkish prison but something to avoid as obviously better to be home close to whatever support system he may have. Be quiet and take meds would never be my default play.

I mean yeah, certainly the "ideal" scenario for Tom would be to be back home, getting support from friends and family, and receiving care there. But he was pretty clearly unwell enough that he would've been sectioned eventually no matter where he was. If he had such a severe episode of psychosis in public like that, then I would guess he's probably needed mental health treatment for a while now

Unfortunately, "be quiet and take meds" is really the only play when that kind of thing happens, though it's unlikely anyone under the veil of serious mental illness would see it that way


by PugDolk m

there’s several governments throughout history that have used medication and forced institutionalization to silence political dissidents.
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by auralex14 m

Which ones? Not saying you’re wrong, but I just know of the ones that skip the foreplay and kill dissidents.

COINTELPRO drugged Fred Hampton in 1969, but that was so they could kill him.

But yeah, we are talking about Tom ****ing Dwan. Lol


The thing is, you likely don't get an involuntarily hold unless you're perceived as in a state where you need it. So, although "be quiet and take drugs" seems like a less than stellar option if you're trying to prove your sanity, it is actually what you'd do if you were in that situation and feeling healthy. It would be "ok this is dumb and idk how I got here when I'm clearly okay, but now that I see there is no successful arguing, I understand that I can just kill time for a few weeks and then exit." This is not a kidnapping where he needs to escape and can't trust the people, this is people calmly explaining the situation to him (including the duration of his stay).

If you think they're prescribing all patients a ton of substances, you're wrong. They're not just issuing lithium to everyone who takes a break at an in-patient facility. If you're on a hold and you are behaving calmly and rationally, you might just be asked to take a benzodiazepine which won't really have much of an effect besides feeling a tiny bit subdued. Sometimes non-violent criminal offenses are given temporary holds in the UK rather than jail sentences, and I think a lot of people are assuming he's being held at a facility with patients with more serious issues. He's allowed visitors, his sentence is short, and while I'm sure he'd rather be elsewhere, he does have the luxury of having a job where he can take a few weeks off. If Tom is okay, then he's okay. If he's having a struggle, then he's in the right place because there really is no better help sometimes than getting to just take a break from it all.

The tweet reads like something Tiger King would write. I don't think it's so black and white as "ur mentally ill or ur okay". We all have difficult moments and tough times, and people are able to recover from them with help. He's getting help, and that's good. Even if he's completely fine and was just threw a tantrum on the plane until they committed him, this is still a good break because it'll be a lesson not to do that again.

As for the friend, we all have regrettable friends. If a conspiracy theorist came to bother me while I was stuck in a hospital, I'd probably text JD Vance for help too.

Anyway, I think we'll just have to wait and see. I wish Tom luck.


by PugDolk m

not liking jews doesn’t mean you’re schizophrenic.

Thinking they're trying to get you definitely is a sign of schizophrenia. He was also saying that the US government and the soviets were after him. That's a sign of schizophrenia i think.
He also died from a curable illness because he wouldn't take medication for it. He didn't trust the doctors...
I know of somebody that was schizophrenic and died recently for the exact same reason. Untreated schizophrenia could be dangerous for the person and those around them.

there’s always a double edged sword with psychiatric drugs and imo they should be reserved for the most extreme cases, like for actively suicidal/homicidal people, actively hallucinating people, etc.

Tom's said in his tweet that he had broken ribs, punctured lung, broken hand and other minor injuries. He seemed physically fine on the picture that was posted and pokernews reporter said he is physically ok.
So we finally agree on something


That type of delusion and paranoia can be a product of psychosis also, which is a more short-term problem that can be brought on by traumatic experiences, lack of sleep, poor health, or substance use. We're really quick to diagnose Tom with something major, but this moment seems like an outlier in his history.


by RosaParks1 m

That type of delusion and paranoia can be a product of psychosis also, which is a more short-term problem that can be brought on by traumatic experiences, lack of sleep, poor health, or substance use. We're really quick to diagnose Tom with something major, but this moment seems like an outlier in his history.

I hope so, but he’s been acting strange for awhile (albeit, not always), and he’s been acting very different than he did back when he was on HSP 10 years ago (or more?).

He probably needs to be on medication permanently. Unless he’s on some serious drug like meth and not sleeping for a week, in which case he can get healthy.

But I don’t think that’s the case. It seems more serious, but I’m not a doctor. We’ll see. Hopefully he has a support system and gets healthy. He’s a legend. And he’s been weird for awhile. And not Charlie Carrel weird, but kinda psychotic.

I’m sure whatever happened on the plane was severe, and he was probably restrained and immediately taken into custody when they landed.


by langozam m

This is tragic if tom doesn't get a fast recovery I don't know about Tom's ai use but posting on X as a forum probably didn't do him any good

Man, I saw that so many times... So somebody with mental health problem takes some random pills, kratom, sits in meditation or whatever... And it doesn't cure his psychosis surprisingly, so only logical output is that some random pills, kratom, sitting in meditation or whatever are real reason for his psychosis... Right?


Maybe Dwan got ahold of something and over did it? Taking too much of anything is bad. Too much salt water will kill a person. Too much LSD, cocaine, alcohol, fentanyl, etc. can cause the brain to misfire permanently.

Then again, he could be right, the government could be after him. Ever hear of the MKUltra program when spooks would secretly spike someone's drink with LSD then claim they 'went crazy'? They ruined people's lives. The lead doctor for that program got access to Jack Ruby then declared him insane.


Why would Tom be on a government list for fake insanity?

We often matter less than we think. The government doesn't have the resources for that kind of play. And who would the guy in charge in the uk/us be? He could of course be someone insane, but that would show.


When I was in hospital I got a poker chip set delivered and we started playing 4-5 handed NLH sit and goes to pass the time. did 800 pushups in one day also. I also played spin and goes as well online.
I've been there 6 times some of those times for 2 months. It ain't that bad in there. I've been told its worse than prison but I dunno. You gotta be on meds that ain't reacting badly for you. if you are on meds that don't work or cause problems it causes issues.
Tom should start some games if he got a phone.


by jcorb m

Maybe Dwan got ahold of something and over did it? Taking too much of anything is bad. Too much salt water will kill a person. Too much LSD, cocaine, alcohol, fentanyl, etc. can cause the brain to misfire permanently. Then again, he could be right, the government could be after him. Ever hear of the MKUltra program when spooks would secretly spike someone's drink with LSD

Pretty sure what he does is he goes on poker and speed benders then boards an airplane and sleeps it off. He probably tried to board an airplane in london and was tweaking the **** out.


perfect time to start working on a new poker course!

Maybe 'RaiseYourMeds.'

or 'Downswing'


by Poker_Orifice m

perfect time to start working on a new poker course!

Maybe 'RaiseYourMeds.'

or 'Downswing'

New season of High Stakes Poker but it's just Dwan getting kidnapped by Triads.


sad people ^^^ probably still playing 25/50c


Don’t know if anyone posted the link here already but DN is talking about this on either his or someone else’s podcast….(I think this is a recent upload). I don’t have the link but saw it on IG, essentially saying Dwan has been paranoid about being surveilled by the gov’t for sometime.


by Hell2Heaven m

Don’t know if anyone posted the link here already but DN is talking about this on either his or someone else’s podcast….(I think this is a recent upload). I don’t have the link but saw it on IG, essentially saying Dwan has been paranoid about being surveilled by the gov’t for sometime.

It was on DN and his wife's podcast, and then they rambled about mental health. Both experts, obviously


Tom for HOF in 2027? With two players inducted yearly a chance. With one chances are slimmer. If charisma and playing very good for quite some time counts, he could get in. How he ultimately handles this situation plays a part.

Glad the time is over when people luckboxing the ME got a ticket.




by Rmbxr9 m

It was on DN and his wife's podcast, and then they rambled about mental health. Both experts, obviously

They are kind of experts though lol


That's not very reassuring.


by plaaynde m

Tom for HOF in 2027? With two players inducted yearly a chance. With one chances are slimmer. If charisma and playing very good for quite some time counts, he could get in. How he ultimately handles this situation plays a part.

Glad the time is over when people luckboxing the ME got a ticket.

We're talking about Tom Dwan here?


by Masq m

We're talking about Tom Dwan here?

You may use the term you want, this thread alone wouldn't happen without him having some.


Did he thank JD Vance at least?

Just full blown insanity, details, conspiracies, fake pilots, CIA


I’m good guys, judged some stuff wrong, need a beach lol

Such a god damn weird guy


The key is quitting while you are ahead Tom !

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