Talk About Movies: Part 4

Talk About Movies: Part 4

Somehow threads merged, so here's part 4 of our ongoing movie discussion.

19 October 2018 at 12:58 AM
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by Phat Mack

I'm confused. How can you see this preview and not run down to the nearest movie theater and demand that they screen it for you?

I practically jumped out of my seat and screamed YASSSS when I saw that preview.

Don’t remember the drainpipe scene but the nickname scene remains indelible.


by MSchu18

Confined spaces is one of my personal favorite Film structures, Hateful Eight... Reservoir Dogs... Snow Trail and Runaway Train(Written by Kurosawa)... 12 Angry Men... and so on.

Alien, Ex Machina, I Am Mother, but certainly not The Panic Room or Inside Man. I passed on Hateful 8, been long over Cutie & The N-Bombs.


by BullyEyelash

Wow, LOL’d for realz.

For REAL...


by BullyEyelash

I practically jumped out of my seat and screamed YASSSS when I saw that preview.

Don’t remember the drainpipe scene but the nickname scene remains indelible.

'Same thing!'

And that RZA soundtrack is elite.


Sinners is a great freakin movie. I'll be doing a real review sometime soon.


Oh, for God’s sake.



The OJ bit in the trailer admittedly made me chuckle.


by corpus vile

The OJ bit in the trailer admittedly made me chuckle.

Wtf, this can't be happening. I have to go on Alamo and see if I can order tickets


by corpus vile

The OJ bit in the trailer admittedly made me chuckle.

Picked up the OG Trilogy from the library on DVD. I was just watching clips from the first one. The OJ death is pure comedy. When he leans against the wet paint and says, "Oh no!!" Peak comedy for me.

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i was pissed at first but now i'm glad they aren't remaking it but doing a next generation homage


also, here's a ten minute format/aspect ration lesson from director Ryan Coogler, in case you need it...entertaining and informative for film novices:

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by Dominic

also, here's a ten minute format/aspect ration lesson from director Ryan Coogler, in case you need it...entertaining and informative for film novices:

Nice, but I don't get how the film stock itself produces shallow depth of field.

Also, I would love to be able to get to a theater that uses these special formats, but I can't justify going to Brooklyn for a movie. I guess IMAX will have to do.

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The film stock does not compress the depth of field, it has the same resolution and dynamic range across the entire stock.
However, the lens types and setups needed to properly expose the large format stock does produce a more organic and natural looking focus fall off.
Large format, high dynamic range, short depth of field shots are some of the most stunning scenes photographed.


Warfare was good... not ground breaking from a story perspective, but hyper realistic without being completely saturated with violence... though it is violent. As a matter of fact, ALL of the violence is perpetrated on the US side... I don't remember seeing a single insurgent being KIA.

This story falls into that 'one room' story format

Sound design was amazingly good in this film.


by MSchu18

Warfare was good... not ground breaking from a story perspective, but hyper realistic without being completely saturated with violence... though it is violent. As a matter of fact, ALL of the violence is perpetrated on the US side... I don't remember seeing a single insurgent being KIA.

Sound design was amazingly good in this film.

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I legit jumped out of my seat when the IED exploded.

Also, fwiw, here is the opening video to the movie:

I never would have thought anyone in the US Military back then would have known this song/video existed.


by MSchu18

The film stock does not compress the depth of field, it has the same resolution and dynamic range across the entire stock.
However, the lens types and setups needed to properly expose the large format stock does produce a more organic and natural looking focus fall off.
Large format, high dynamic range, short depth of field shots are some of the most stunning scenes photographed.

Some people feel that the depth of field can be controlled with the focal length and with the aperture settings. Different film stocks may facilitate different settings.

From a movie famous for it's short focal length. The actress, Michelle Reis, perhaps the most striking woman in 90s cinema, was **NOT** allowed to see her rushes.

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I really liked Fallen Angels, randomly watched on TV one night and thoroughly enjoyed it.


by Phat Mack

Some people feel that the depth of field can be controlled with the focal length and with the aperture settings. Different film stocks may facilitate different settings.

From a movie famous for it's short focal length. The actress, Michelle Reis, perhaps the most striking woman in 90s cinema, was **NOT** allowed to see her rushes.

focal length is the main contributor to depth of field... 65mm stock (because of it's speed) needs to be exposed at nearly 'wide open' aperture settings for proper exposure, and that shortens/compresses the depth of field... specifically on interior and low light shots.

so, if semantics are taken into account... the original statement by the director that 65mm film facilitates a shallow depth of field, a LOOSE argument can be made... all in all, it's not the films 'fault'. the actual stock is amazing... one of the really great achievements of man... 4x6 and 8x10 not withstanding.

Don't ask me how I know... but I do, from a professionals perspective.


Sinners, Ryan Coogler, 2025

Beautifully shot, gorgeous, fun, and scary. Great freakin' movie. A mash-up of vampire lore and the Robert Johnson deal-with-the-devil mythology. From Dusk Till Dawn meets Crossroads lol.

Real-life blues guitarist Miles Caton plays Sammie, a young man in 1932 Mississippi called Preacher Boy, as his father is the town preacher. His dad also wants Sammie to give up his obsession with the guitar and follow in his footsteps as a man of God. But Sammie got the music in him and it won't let go...

Sammie's older cousins, twin brothers Smoke and Stack, come back to town after being away for a long time - first as soldiers in WWI and then as small-time gangsters in Chicago. They're back with some ill-gotten gains and a dream to open a juke joint where Sammie can play the guitar. Michael B. Jordan plays both roles of the twins.

Haille Steinfeld plays a former flame of Smoke, who passes for white even though she has some African American in her DNA.

Jack O'Connell plays an Irish immigrant who is also a musician...but more like the devil in that Charlie Daniels song.

Delroy Lindo plays an old-time harmonica and piano player.

Wunmi Mosaku ( Loki) plays Stack's former lover and mother of his dead baby - probably my favorite role in the movie...Mosaku is warm, strong, motherly, and sexy as hell. What a performance.

Li Jun Li plays the proprietor of the local country store who helps the cousins set up their juke joint.

The way Coogler intertwines the importance and magic of music to human beings throughout this movie is so much fun. There's a sequence on opening night of the juke joint where the music is transporting the customers and us the audience so much, that we see past, present, and future all wrapped up into one - African and Chinese and Native American and so on...that's just spectacular. What a scene.

This movie is leisurely paced - the first half is all about the twins and Sammie trying to get the juke joint open in time, with nary a horror trope in sight...but once Jack O'Connell shows up....now we get vampires! and different kinds and hierarchies of them, as well.

There's even a huge surprise when we see Sammie as an old man - played by an actual legendary blues man. Go in blind so it's not spoiled for you! And stay through the end credits for a nice bonus.

Coogler really raises his game from a damn good director of tentpole movies to a true film artist with this one...Sinners is scary, funny, sexy as hell, gory, and life-affirming all at once. And the MUSIC. Man, what music.

Best film I've seen this year. Go see it.

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It's not fair to label Sinners as From Dusk Till Dawn in the 1930s deep south, but I'm going to do it anyway. The similarities are too obvious. Sinners is a better film though. The dance sequence is fantastic.


oh it's a much better movie...much more than a genre mash-up. Coogler has interesting things to say about freedom in America and what it means, especially for black men only 70 years after the civil War ended...what being black - or really, any person of color (especially immigrants) means in this country.

Strangely prescient today, as well.


by Dominic

Haille Steinfeld plays

Ah, no wonder you like it so much.

j/k It actually does look like a really great movie. Thanks for the review.


by Dominic

The zJuliete Binoche/Judi Densch one? Yes.

Thanks. It grew on me. There is a lightness about the French.

I also watched Manhattan for the first time. Good ending. Nothing happens, nobody gets killed. It is in black and white because experience of one's city is necessarily retro and sentimental?


in the flavor of 'One Room/Chamber Piece' I watched an upscaled The Hateful Eight... the image was superb and the market patiently awaits for the rest of the QT catalog to be released on 4k uhd soon.


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