AKo short stacked
I know standard is to try to be as deep as possible, but I have limit and tournament experience and am more comfortable
What I always wonder about short stackers is what they do once they double up. If you buy in for $100-$150, and get to $200-$300, do you pick up and leave, or do you sit there and nit it up, or do you have a different game plan for playing $200-$300 deep?If it's "different game plan", then I wonder why they don't just buy in for that much and play that game plan. If they're pic
I "shortstack" my 1/3 NL $100 - $500 BI game by sitting on a constantly topped up $200 stack. I just find for me and my skill level that it's the stack I'm most comfortable at and likely most profitable at.
A decent amount of sessions (which are now typically only 4 to 5 hours in length for me) where nothing good has happened, I'm often still nursing that shortstack well into the session (or even, unfortunately, at the end of the session).
Keep in mind that if at the end of a ~4 hour session we've only run up our starting stack of $200 to $300, that is $100 profit in 4 hours, which is $25 per hour = 8.3 bbs/hr (which is pretty good in a high rake ~small BI LLSNL game).
But yes, there will be times where I win a big hand or two and now I'm sitting on a much bigger stack and I'm only a couple hours into my planned longer session. I do a few things. One, I never sit OOP deep to a difficult player (so I seat change to avoid this). Two, if there are too many difficult deep stacks at the table, I'll try to move to a smaller stacked table (or one with non-difficult deepstacks). Three, I'll just do as best I can; I'm not as confident I'm as +EV in this situation as I would be with my shorter stack, but I doubt I'm -EV. And finally, if game conditions just aren't great I'll leave a bit earlier than what I had originally planned.
It's funny, I was sitting at a table the other day and my stack had grown deep, and there were some other deeper stacks on the table, and it had some action (but dangerous) players. The ~70 year old reg beside me who has decades of experience (including sitting deep, although he is also undoubtedly a losing reg like most other regs), leans over to me and whispers "I'm sitting at the perfect stack for this table". He had $250 in front of him. I was jealous of his stack size.
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Ya I work my stack up from 40bbs and stay for a certain amount of time. My game/strategy changes as I get deeper and my opponents wont understand this. Holdem isnt fun, its a side job so sitting there bored is still better then normal work. Just “sitting there and making $100” puts you in the 1% that makes profit.
Being a shortstacker is frowned upon enough, being a hit and runner on top of this is going to make you a lot of enemies.
I just play normally after building a normal stack, which is sort of tight, but definitely not OMC, and playing small pps and Axs more than short stacked.
As I mentioned sometimes I take a break and come back or switch to a different stakes, PLO, or a limit game for an hour or so and come back.
Fair enough. I don't see many good players buying in with a short stack in the games I play. Maybe 1 in 20 are capable of turning $100 into $500 or more in a session.
Fair enough. I don't see many good players buying in with a short stack in the games I play. Maybe 1 in 20 are capable of turning $100 into $500 or more in a session.
I don’t short stack at NL but I sit pretty short in my plo game but I stay til the game gets short handed or breaks. No one seems to mind. I think it’s the hit and running that people don’t like.