President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump

I assume it's still acceptable to have a Trump thread in a Politics forum?

So this is an obvious lie - basically aimed at

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28 April 2019 at 04:18 AM
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by mongidig

Most if not all left wing "protests" turn into riots. I don't like protesters and I don't care about their rights. It's just a bunch of raggedy whiners. They have wore their welcome out as far as I'm concerned.

The blm « riots » represent about 1% of all protest link to that movement .
All were mostly very peaceful and non eventful.
Gj buddy …

You don’t care about others rights , yup you are for freedom all right lol…
Seem we have another fascist on our hands people .


by mongidig

This is more like being down 6 in the first quarter of an NBA game. There is a long way to go.

The impressive part is Trump is down 6 and the other side hasn't even shown up to the game. All of Trump's concessions have come from negotiating with himself lol.




by Montrealcorp

The blm « riots » represent about 1% of all protest link to that movement .
All were mostly very peaceful and non eventful.
Gj buddy …

You don’t care about others rights , yup you are for freedom all right lol…
Seem we have another fascist on our hands people .

It's impossible that he wasn't trolling.

On April 5th there were more than 1400 Hands Off! protests with hundreds of thousands of protestors nationwide. There were no riots and I definitely wasn't paid.


by microbet

It's impossible that he wasn't trolling.

On April 5th there were more than 1400 Hands Off! protests with hundreds of thousands of protestors nationwide. There were no riots and I definitely wasn't paid.

Has a protest you attended ever lead to something better? Or was it just another waste of tax payer money. I'm sure the police had to be there to protect you even though it appears you folks are against the police.

I am thankful no one was hurt.


Probably the most successful protests I ever went to were anti-apartheid protests in the 80s. The University of California did divest and Nelson Mandela came later and said that was very important.

But you can't run it again in real life, so you pretty much never really know what difference anything makes. I think in this case people are just hoping to slow down the Trump horror show. If no one even tried, things could be worse.


by Luciom

keep in mind it's exceptionally hard to find anyone talking basic Italian outside Italy, at least if you want random cheap people.I know Tunisia and Albania have been offering Italian language courses for the last 20+ years in increasing amount and then you can land a good (for their economy) job as remote support for Italian services (say 1k/month + which let's you live very d

In the US, every time I reach foreign customer service, I can't be sure the person on the other side even understands what the problem is.
So many times they reply with an obvious script which doesn't even address the problem I just explained.


by mongidig

Most if not all left wing "protests" turn into riots. I don't like protesters and I don't care about their rights. It's just a bunch of raggedy whiners. They have wore their welcome out as far as I'm concerned.

That's how I feel about the January 6 "protestors" . The front row of them should have been gunned down.

Likely the rest would have turned back, but if they didn't, gun them down as well. I know Luciom agrees.


by mongidig

Has a protest you attended ever lead to something better? Or was it just another waste of tax payer money. I'm sure the police had to be there to protect you even though it appears you folks are against the police.

I am thankful no one was hurt.

What a weird take. Protests lead to political change all the time. Look at the protests against trans rights and abortion rights that led to mass roll-backs all over the country.

The future is always decided by the 5% (generously) of people who lead political conversations.


by diebitter

I wonder about what motivates Donald Trump.

I think it's a combo of needing his ego stroking all the time (mostly by himself), and being obsessed with showing how great he is at deals.

I don't think there's anything more in that bubble head. Everything else is people who manipulate him into doing stuff they want, by ego-stroking.

ok fine but I'm worried about who is in his head not so much what. And what kind of training wheels are actually in effect. Last Trump term he wanted to kill Assad. The generals, in a well documented instance, told him no we're not doing that. Who else can set limits?

The fact of Trump being dumb and shallow is hardly an end point in figuring what his policies are intended to do.


by d2_e4

I'm sure mongy will be along any second now to explain to us why this is all akshually a very bigly victory for the Great Orange.

Welcome back, man. How ya been?

by microbet

Maybe, but in the slightly longer term what really matters is (despite promising cuts initially) Trump is promising a huge increase in military spending. There are more hammers and even more things in the future will look like nails.

That's the hilarious part of DOGE and all the Musk/Trump cucks. The DoD's budget is $850 billion and they haven't been able to pass an audit in seven ****ing years, while there are active-duty troops on food stamps, yet the peanut gallery are celebrating Musk walking around with a chainsaw because he freed up a few million by firing government workers with stellar reviews, and Trump wants to give them even more money to not be able to account for.

by mongidig

Has a protest you attended ever lead to something better? Or was it just another waste of tax payer money. I'm sure the police had to be there to protect you even though it appears you folks are against the police.

I am thankful no one was hurt.

Lemme guess... the Trump cucks tearing down the American flag at the Capitol Building and hoisting up a Trump flag in its place and using that flagpole to beat on police was not a waste of tax payer money and was a show of their support for police, amirite?

Under the First Amendment of the Constitution, that little document you want torched in your fireplace, Trump cucks, BLM, fired federal workers, etc., all have the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances without fear of legal or worse consequences.

That of course only applies to peaceful individuals. Whether it's BLM, J6 cucks, or Musk protestors, any vandalism and violence needs to be dealt with accordingly.

As for your question that implies protests against the government never lead to change, perhaps crack open a history book sometime?


by mongidig
by diebitter

lol started a Trade War and lost it real quick.

This is more like being down 6 in the first quarter of an NBA game. There is a long way to go.

I don't understand, you said you were winning, bigly wins, and deals were made all over the place?


by Luciom
by mongidig

I hope we do. People who demonstrate/protests are typically outcasts who have nothing else going for them. Most don't even know what they are protesting. Many are paid to be there. We saw what happened during the BLM riots. This can't happen again. I say bring in the boys and shut them down.

protesting is a very important unalienable right to preserve and defend.rioting isn't.

And then when there are people like you claiming being banned on an internet forum is an act of incredible violence what you do?
Who gets to decide what's peacefull and what's violence?


by checkraisdraw

What a weird take. Protests lead to political change all the time. Look at the protests against trans rights and abortion rights that led to mass roll-backs all over the country.

The future is always decided by the 5% (generously) of people who lead political conversations.

I never even heard of protests against trans rights.

I also tend to think that protests accomplish very little, but as someone already said, it's impossible to know for sure.


by mongidig

Has a protest you attended ever lead to something better? Or was it just another waste of tax payer money. I'm sure the police had to be there to protect you even though it appears you folks are against the police.

I am thankful no one was hurt.

Rarely wins on the narrow issue being protested but absolutely it can change things in the protesters direction. I call this the 'Newbury Bypass effect'. The protests didn't stop that road but it substantially won the arguement on road building. (This is same as political argument where failing to change peoples mind on the specific point is rare while changing minds is more or less a given)

"After Newbury, the Labour government came to power with a manifesto pledge to stop road building and look at the alternatives, which they did do.

"Although there were 600 road schemes proposed initially by the Thatcher government, over the protest years it was whittled down to 150.

"By the time the Labour government came in 1997 the road programme was scrapped completely.

"So by anyone's standard that was an enormously successful campaign - over five years to reduce the multibillion-pound road building programme down to zero."


Can't prove that wouldn't have happened anyway but it's highly unlikely.


I have to laugh, what would it take for Mong to acknowledge Trump is a moron.

I swear, he'd claim it's 4-d chess/art of the deal if Trump shat in his undies then started to eat it in a cabinet meeting.


So, the Trump administration sent a guy to a Salvadoran prison by mistake, a judge said they had to (at least try to) get him back. They appealed to the Supreme Court, which decided unanimously that they had to try to get him back, and to report their progress on the issue.

They have now stated that they will not comply with the order of the Supreme Court.

I cannot now see how anyone could possibly claim that Trump is in deliberate violation of the Constitution. I don't know of any president ever doing anything like this before. This seems to be the absolute worst thing that any president has ever done.

But what can be done about it? The Supreme Court doesn't have an army, and there is nothing that can be done about it. Even if congress impeaches and convicts him, they also have no army, and I assume he would also ignore that action.

IMO, this absolutely proves that a dictatorship is now in power. As far as I'm concerned, no federal laws are now legally in effect, and it's now the duty of anyone who doesn't want to live in a dictatorship to do absolutely anything they can to overturn it, including any amount of violence necessary to accomplish that.

If anyone disagrees with any of this, I would love to hear your logic and be convinced otherwise, but it seems to me that the 249 year "Great Experiment" has now failed.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...


Millions of relatives of the people killed in south east Asia, Iraq and Afghanistan would disagree that this is the worst thing a US president has ever done.


by jalfrezi

Millions of relatives of the people killed in south east Asia, Iraq and Afghanistan would disagree that this is the worst thing a US president has ever done.

Hmm, well obviously that has nothing to do with my point. If anyone actually wants to address the issue seriously, please do.


I'm starting to wonder if that poor guy who got sent to the prison is already dead.

Not a gang member in a prison hellhole dominated by gangs.

Poor guy.


by chillrob

So, the Trump administration sent a guy to a Salvadoran prison by mistake, a judge said they had to (at least try to) get him back. They appealed to the Supreme Court, which decided unanimously that they had to try to get him back, and to report their progress on the issue.They have now stated that they will not comply with the order of the Supreme Court.I cannot now see how an

Yes, I think you're correct.

Only way to depose a tyrant.


Just reread my post and need to correct one sentence.

"I cannot now see how anyone could possibly claim that Trump is not in deliberate violation of the Constitution."


Of course it's failed. People outside the US were predicting eventual fascism in the US decades ago just by extrapolating the decline from Nixon through Reagan and to Bush.

Throwing orange jumpsuits around people not convicted of any crimes and torturing the **** out of them for prolonged periods of time was one obvious sign that American hubris, trumpeting its "checks and balances" chose to ignore.


by chillrob

They have now stated that they will not comply with the order of the Supreme Court.

But what can be done about it? The Supreme Court doesn't have an army, and there is nothing that can be done about it. Even if congress impeaches and convicts him, they also have no army, and I assume he would also ignore that action.

Here's what Conway said about that back in February:


by weeeez

And then when there are people like you claiming being banned on an internet forum is an act of incredible violence what you do
Who gets to decide what's peacefull and what's violence

The same problem arises every time law enforcement has to deal with a real time violent situation, how is that different?

In these days we have video available so it's very easy to have proof or lack thereof of the justification to intervene.

Ofc the decision to ex post consider the actions legitimate or not is in the hands of the judiciary, like for all other law enforcement possible violations of their powers.

Banning someone is a legitimate act of violence if you own the place so i don't understand what you meant by that.

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