President Donald Trump

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Phish played their 6th ever 4th of july concert. Yesterday was the only time they didn’t play the star spangled banner. Take that maga!

why do lefties always say this like it’s an own. it sounds like it’s an argument IN FAVOR of strategic voting, but presented as a reductio ad absurdum.

when you only have two choices you should choose the one that most aligns to your preferences. duh

Exactly. Thanks a lot, Obama.

Cos that's nonsense? There's more than two choices and parties adapt.

If people want to argue the benefit of voting least worst over putting pressure on parties to adapt then they are free to so. Sometimes I'd agree but in general it means the extremists will win - as you say 'duh'

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I got difficulty seeing that road map.

What difficulty?

if you can't see how a cultish devotion to "lesser" evil got you here, then idk what to tell you

Maybe I didn’t interpret it correctly but I don’t see how voting for the lesser evil brings you u to more extremist result .

One of the most common traits across all of the conservative crybabies is a lack of self-awareness.

I’d say Trump’s presidency so far is proof that you should just suck it up and vote for the least bad option every time.

You act like there are no other opportunities to influence the electorate other than literally on election day. By the time election day rolls around it should be obvious which option falls more in line with your preferences. Before then you have opportunity to change what the options are (primaries, lobbying, making calls, running for office yourself, participating in party conventions and caucuses, signing petitions, etc).

Intrinsically lefties know this but for some reason want to ignore those options when it comes to clear decisions about which candidate is better.

Besides, you guys had your Corbin and your Sanders. They couldn’t win. Why does this keep getting ignored over and over? You think someone even more left than those two could win? lol

But keep blaming the duopoly for the fact that you can’t convince people with normal methods so instead you want to **** all over the process.

Yeah who knows what he means by that. I think some cope about how the liberal party will always give more ground to the right every time they lose but never move things back to the left when they win.

I'm sure you would. I'd disagree

You are simply wrong on this

Extreme short term thinking is defintiely part of the problem.

There are several reasons but key is that the extremist benefit from the 'evil'

When the decent people fail the extremsist gain. Unfortunately when the extremist fail, the extremists still gain unless a huge effort is made before they're back. This is not symmetric battle. Work is required to prevent decay.

i don't understand how "lesser" evil produces bad results. i am very smart

start by looking up the word evil i guess, idk

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lesser evil is just one way of understanding it. you can also think of it as choose the option that is closer to your preferences.

idk why I’m engaging though you don’t even hide your ******ation

It's all the Democrats. All they do is take pre-tax donations from pot-taking Bolshevik lesbian couples, mix it all in with huge NEA grants, launder it in inner-city methadone clinics, and pump it right back out to pro-abortion Super PAC's.

Socialists are extremists. So by that logic you should keep voting for democrats if you’re a socialist.

As a lefty, I believe it's obvious to the point of absurdity that you vote for the better of the realistic choices nationally and try to steer more left in more local elections.

I have no idea how this is even arguable.

Voting to perpetuate a completely ****ed US electoral system of donkeys v elephants is only in the interests of those two terrible parties because you have no way of indicating that you’re voting for the lesser of two evils rather than being an enthusiastic lap dog for the democrats, who will use your vote as a thumbs up for their crappy policies.

So in the very short term you get a marginally better government for four years and in the mid to long term you get the continuation of two parties exploiting the electoral system.

Either abstain or find an independent candidate who more closely matches your policy preferences. If you must continue to vote for the least evil, at least stop whining about how shite the two parties are becuase you and people like you are responsible for it.

you guys had your hillary and your kamala. they couldn't win. why does this keep getting ignored over and over?

Well that would imply people couldn’t prevent becoming more and more evil .
I kind of disagree , usually at some point the saner side wins but yes, some exception obviously can happens but that is because the democratic system been already compromise shrug .

My preferred candidate in 2016 was Bernie (2020 as well) and in 2024 there was no opportunity to have anyone else but Kamala step in. Also you’re ignoring the victories of Starmer and Biden. Losing is something the Dems/centrist labor have in common with socialists, but winning is not something socialists have in common with Dems/centrist labor

Edit: the problem is it’s disanalagous, you can’t just substitute names of people that lost.

Well a woman , a black one at that , could certainly make a point of being presented as an extremist candidate in many spheres of society for the U.S. , I’m not sure that help your cause.
And the proof is Biden , a non extremist candidate , a white male, did actually won vs trump .