Jared Griener hogtied and robbed of WSOP winnings at Airbnb
how much did they steal?
In the Chad Power case, the primary suspect had three prior felony convictions, was identified as a suspect in a case back in 2006, so 15 years earlier, where a robber followed a poker player home before stealing $15,000 in cash and chips.
Glad to hear Jared wasn't physically hurt and hope they catch the fukkers.
Why are a good chunk of people on x, facebook, reddit calling this guy a liar and saying its some sort of insurance scam or defrauding his backers lol. I mean hes probably an idiot for carrying that amount of cash around, but the story to me sounds totally believable , and I feel bad for the guy.
Article didn't say as far as I can tell. Article says:
"The backpack contained what he described as “literally all” of his money."
According to WSOP he cashed the Main for 57k in 218th place and had several other cashes in the series. Who knows if it was just that, more/less, but this wasn't just a few K but likely Tens of thousands of dollars.
Not victim blaming here, but man if it was 50-100k and it was "literally" all of my money I would never carry all that around in cash. If i was cashing out my WSOP account, for those unaware, you can just put all WSOP cashes into your tournament account and then cash it all out when you leave. I would definitely take a check if we are talking this kind of money.
This does sound like inside job of some sort as mentioned in article, not just a simple follow home robbery, they were at his Air BNB prior to him getting there and inside, so they somehow knew where he was staying and had the door code. If the Air BNB has a lock with a keypad, they could have easily been watching him and stolen the code with binoculars or a camera in prior days watching him enter it. Wonder how he was targeted.
Why are a good chunk of people on x, facebook, reddit calling this guy a liar and saying its some sort of insurance scam or defrauding his backers lol. I mean hes probably an idiot for carrying that amount of cash around, but the story to me sounds totally believable , and I feel bad for the guy.
Unfortunately there are always gobshites that just jump to conclusions before any investigation. Just hope they are as stupid when they are being judged.
I'm in no way blaming the victim, but... why do poker players who presumably have the means to stay in an actual hotel decide to stay in AirBnBs? These AirBnB things ****ing suck. You're stuck with whatever lodging they offer, no maid service, way less likely people can break in, hogtie you and steal your money, free breakfast, etc etc etc. I mean, maybe if you're staying with your family and could use the extra space, ok, but a poker player staying on his own for what is effectively a work trip?!?
#AbolishBnBs
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Based on Mob results it would’ve been around $80K.
It smells a little fishy to me, but if true:
I’m glad he’s ok
It wasn’t pro thieves
It should be pretty easy to narrow down who the mastermind of the intricate plot is
He’s really ****ing stupid.
lol keypad locks in general and especially on street facing front doors
I'm in no way blaming the victim, but... why do poker players who presumably have the means to stay in an actual hotel decide to stay in AirBnBs? These AirBnB things ****ing suck. You're stuck with whatever lodging they offer, no maid service, way less likely people can break in, hogtie you and steal your money, free breakfast, etc etc etc. I mean, maybe if you're staying wi
This sort of story happens all the time. It's another example of something people generally don't think about--security of your bankroll or any potential winnings, cause keeping it all in a bag in an airbnb for even 5 minutes isn't a good idea. Athletes are doing the same thing, how did I lose all this money in an air bnb and the first post about it on the internet is why the heck do you have that much in an airbnb.
if you're a live tournament player, everyone can easily find out (and some people tell the world about it on social media) when you won something so they can lie in wait.
Could've been targeted via all sorts of ways, reality is if they know you're in town for the wsop and your name, they can find out if you have a score and they also know when you're going to be leaving. Bonus points for having an insider at the cage tipping them off whenever someone withdraws via cash. (plenty of people are possible here, could've been a "friend" he told he was getting it and coming back who knows)
edit--I think most of us at this point are aware not to have that much cash on you or around if possible but lots of players aren't or are new to the reality of this world.
in this case, if he had to take it via cash, his best bet would've been to do it as late as possible right before leaving, or straight to a bank, something worth considering planning the exit wsop strategy if you're one of the few who still have money then.
I wouldn't pick airbnb over hotel if solo but some just think of cost or varying other reasons.
Based on Mob results it wouldÂ’ve been around $80K.
It smells a little fishy to me, but if true:
IÂ’m glad heÂ’s ok
It wasnÂ’t pro thieves
It should be pretty easy to narrow down who the mastermind of the intricate plot is
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lol keypad locks in general and especially on street facing front doors
Yeah.
I agree it's kind of fishy. But it doesn't immediately make sense as a scam.
Ripping of backers: was he even profitable? If so not for much. This seems like a high risk way to scam people out of a few k.
What if he sold 400% of himself? I guess so. But it sounds like he is not a well known player. Probably easier said than done, unless he offered people ridiculously favorable deals which would lead to suspicion.
Posting it on Twitter etc. I think it wouldn't take long before the backers found each other and pieced it together.
Also, everyone knows you can flagrantly rip off and cheat people in poker with no consequences. Why file a false police report, stage a robbery, possibly involve accomplices etc?
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Yeah. I agree it's kind of
Right now I'd guess it was true but some of replies on Reddit are funny "it's that time of year to pretend to be robbed".
But to be thorough, everything is just based upon his own words. He could have said that he talked to police and filed a report without having done so. I assume it's not a crime to file a false false police report. And it only had to be staged in his mind.
Motive He owes people money and this is a good excuse. He didn't have to specifically be profitable this summer.
I don't think it's a scam and also just cause you got robbed doesn't mean you don't owe me the money you owe me, all this scam does is buy you time.
I believe there was some video from a neighbors camera in one of the articles showing the people.
"Griener claims that the two men knew the door code to his Airbnb and that video surveillance from neighbors showed they had arrived at the home ten minutes before he did"
I guess though the above says he "claims" about it, just seems little nutty to that this is all made up.
Right now I'd guess it was true but some of replies on Reddit are funny "it's that time of year to pretend to be robbed".But to be thorough, everything is just based upon his own words. He could have said that he talked to police and filed a report without having done so. I assume it's not a crime to file a false false police report. And it only had to be staged in his mind.Mo
It is in fact a crime to file a false police report.
I'm in no way blaming the victim, but... why do poker players who presumably have the means to stay in an actual hotel decide to stay in AirBnBs? These AirBnB things ****ing suck. You're stuck with whatever lodging they offer, no maid service, way less likely people can break in, hogtie you and steal your money, free breakfast, etc etc etc. I mean, maybe if you're staying wi
Greg Raymer was robbed (or at least they attempted to rob him) in the hallway of his hotel room. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2005/jun/13...
I wouldn't expect a hotel room that a hundred low paid hotel employees have a key to to be any safer than an airbnb.
I don't think it's a scam and also just cause you got robbed doesn't mean you don't owe me the money you owe me, all this scam does is buy you time. I believe there was some video from a neighbors camera in one of the articles showing the people. "Griener claims that the two men knew the door code to his Airbnb and that video surveillance from neighbors showed they had arrived
Buying time is always the goal
Anyhow posting it on Twitter with details does actually make it more suspicious to me than if they were left out. If you are telling a lie you are more incentivized to flesh out the story. It's acting strong (lots of details) when weak with a made up story.
Now what about what I said "a false false police report"
What I'm saying is it a crime to say you filed a report, but didn't
it's definitely not a crime to simply lie about it
if one texts a pic of a faked police report to their backers to try and stall them then it would be a different story
Greg Raymer was robbed (or at least they attempted to rob him) in the hallway of his hotel room. https://lasvegassun.com/news/2005/jun/13...
I wouldn't expect a hotel room that a hundred low paid hotel employees have a key to to be any safer than an airbnb.
Heh, just remembered that incident before seeing this post. One article described him as “portly”. Greg’s post on the incident: “I am not portly. I am muscular and fat.”
Yeah, casino security is pretty overrated. Just ask the families of—never mind. My recollection is that after that Bellagio required everyone to show a room key before getting on an elevator. Dunno if they still do.
In the Chad Power case, the primary suspect had three prior felony convictions, was identified as a suspect in a case back in 2006, so 15 years earlier, where a robber followed a poker player home before stealing $15,000 in cash and chips.
Glad to hear Jared wasn't physically hurt and hope they catch the fukkers.
Yeah, those guys were real hoods,
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albeit typical dummies: “Nobody will know if we just put the new cars in my mom’s name!”
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Reminded me of Jason Potter in 2008 at the Aussie Millions
Vegas TV News segment about robbery, with footage of purported robbers.
