The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance

The Democratic Party's Slide Into Irrelevance

Attaching a poll ... Dems unfavorability rating increased from 45% to 57% during the Biden Administration.

03 February 2025 at 11:49 PM
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by Nut Nut

The quality of the campaign is irrelevant when the system is rigged.

Putin doesn't have to campaign. Neither did Biden.

When you have a corrupt mafia which controls the sheeple vote in an influential primary state like S. Carolina, you don't have to campaign. It's an impenetrable object.

Exactly. So a progressive never lost because they ran a bad campaign, even though we see the most ridiculous and stupid campaigns like Jamaal Bowman, Nina Turner, and Platner.

You guys are so focused on Obama bad you don’t even see how Obama bad is the stupidest way to campaign when people still love him despite your “uncle tom” complaints.

It pisses you Bernie or busters off to actually have to debate, defend, and campaign for your positions.


by whatthejish

You’re .... mad that no one wants to play with you.

People are actually engaging quite a bit and the transparency of their dodging around the substance is quite apparent.

Nothing unexpected here. The lack of authenticity is obvious.


by checkraisdraw

It pisses you Bernie or busters off to actually have to debate, defend, and campaign for your positions.

Progressive policy positions almost all enjoy majority support.

That's the evil of Obama. The ability to influence voters to vote against their own interests.


You want to debate progressive policy vs neoliberal policy and public support for those policies? I'm game for that.


72% of Democrats support Medicare For All.

Bernie supported it, Biden didn't.

https://www.medicaredforall.com/articles...


Can anyone name a single Biden policy which was more popular than Bernie's ?


by Nut Nut

The anti-Nut Nut sentiment here is quite well expressed.

The pro-Obama, pro-Dem establishment, pro-neoliberal sentiment ..... it's crickets.

C'mon folks .... defend your team !!! Break out the pompoms !
!

You keep doing this really creepy ass utopian tribalistic fantasy talk and injecting it into reality.

by Nut Nut

One of the things I was reflecting upon recently was the primitive tribal aspect of ourselves. Imagine the energy in Mexico City for a home World Cup game. How the crowd roars as one when the home team scored to go ahead. It's a primitive and electric sensation when a crowd roars as one. That's the modern manifestation of the tribal energy summoned in going to war. I try to ima

I don't think that you're going to let your rival Slackers live peacefully down the street.


by formula72

I don't think that you're going to let your rival Slackers live peacefully down the street.

You're just fearmongering.

As long as we put a lid on pollution, I don't give af about what people do.


by Nut Nut

“Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds,”

~ Albert Einstein

The kind of thing every nutjob on the planet quotes, absurdly thinking it applies to themselves.


by Nut Nut

All accurate, but none of those convey his political influence in the black community to the detriment of that community's interests. So while accurate, they are far less descriptive than Uncle Tom.

What do you think Wall St is buying from him for $1,000,000 an hour ?

All I can say is that America has the best politicians money can buy.


by Nut Nut

The quality of the campaign is irrelevant when the system is rigged.

Putin doesn't have to campaign. Neither did Biden.

When you have a corrupt mafia which controls the sheeple vote in an influential primary state like S. Carolina, you don't have to campaign. It's an impenetrable object.

The system was also 'rigged' against Trump in his quest for the 2016 nomination. The Corporate Neocons were 'Never Trumper's". Their guy was Jeb Bush.

But the GOP voters had had enough of the Bush's and the McCain's and nominated Trump.

If the Dem voters had wanted Bernie, they would have voted for Bernie. But under 45% of them did, with 55% going to Hillary.


by Nut Nut

You're just fearmongering.

As long as we put a lid on pollution, I don't give af about what people do.

'POT...KETTLE' ALERT!!!


by geezerchess

If the Dem voters had wanted Bernie, they would have voted for Bernie. But under 45% of them did, with 55% going to Hillary.

That's what happens when the corporate media blasts messaging from liars like John Lewis attacking Bernie's civil rights record.

Voters put their trust in liars and the corporate media isn't going to expose the lying even though they know damn well what it is.

The outcome is that the Democrats don't have a governing majority w/o progressive support and the GOP wins by default.


We're a rotting nation. Empires rise and fall. Nothing is permanent.

Obama and Trump are just opportunistic and well paid grifters catering to the parasites who are feeding on the carcass.

All I can do is watch it break and explain why its breaking.


I think we all agree that the Dems are a corporate party of status quo. They aren't remotely progressive.

So what else you got? Just Bernie and don't pollute? Are we done then?


by geezerchess

If the Dem voters had wanted Bernie, they would have voted for Bernie. But under 45% of them did, with 55% going to Hillary.

And what's more telling is that much of that 45% was voting for him as the lesser evil against Clinton and did not support him in 2030 when there were other options.


by Nut Nut

Progressive policy positions almost all enjoy majority support.

That's the evil of Obama. The ability to influence voters to vote against their own interests.

If they almost all enjoy majority support, which I don’t agree with but can grant for the sake of argument, then how much more is the likelihood that progressives are messing up their own campaigns.


by checkraisdraw

If they almost all enjoy majority support, which I don’t agree with but can grant for the sake of argument, then how much more is the likelihood that progressives are messing up their own campaigns.

Their opponents have infinite funding and resources.

How can you compare a progressive political campaign against a media infrastructure which is dishonest and stacked against them?

What kind of campaign can overcome that?

It works in local politics like NYC where there is incredible grassroots connectivity. AOC demonstrated that 4 cycles ago. Bernie did that in Vermont.


by amplify

I think we all agree that the Dems are a corporate party of status quo. They aren't remotely progressive.

So what else you got? Just Bernie and don't pollute? Are we done then?

hes getting there. give him time. hes about where I was in 2019. in a few years he will realize Stalin did nothing wrong and the only true path is that of Ali and the martyr Imam Hussain.


by Victor

hes getting there. give him time. hes about where I was in 2019. in a few years he will realize Stalin did nothing wrong and the only true path is that of Ali and the martyr Imam Hussain.

is this forum ready for Stalin did nothing wrong? I wasn't even going to bring it up until after the Lenin Book Club got going


Everyone please read Imperialism the Highest Stage of Capitalism and be ready to discuss next tuesday.


a true banger


by Victor

hes getting there. give him time. hes about where I was in 2019. in a few years he will realize Stalin did nothing wrong and the only true path is that of Ali and the martyr Imam Hussain.

I'm not a Stalin supporter.

In my opinion, there are two transcendent issues in present day politics.

Environmental destruction and expanding inequality which threatens the social fabric.

My policy recommendations are lean and straightforward. UBI and banning unnecessary and gratuitous pollution.

People want to create a lot of noise and distraction to pivot away from the simplicity of what I recommend. They can't go toe to toe on either of those two fundamental issues so the rhetorical path to that is empty noise.


Environmental destruction and expanding inequality which threatens the social fabric.

how are you going to achieve this by voting? how are you going achieve this without dismantling the USA?


the 2 biggest environmental catastrophes of the last decades were supported by Bernie Sanders ffs. I am talking about the mass bombing in Gaza and the Nordstream terrorist attack.

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