CoinPoker discussion
This should tell you a lot
It is very shady of Coin to add all splashpot-winnings to the rewards in your wallet, and camouflaging it as rakeback, when it in reality is not.In addition to this, there hasn’t been any signs of splashpot-rewards in «my transactions» in the wallet until recently. Therefore people have been misgu
It's been their modus operandi
They've decided to redefine "Rakeback" to anything and everything
https://youtube.com/shorts/FgRB-KI8oOQis=KfBIIQO9UyxpMgDQ
And that's when they sent Carrell out to deal with the plebs
And people wonder why I got annoyed Because when you do this and the only time you ever correct your behaviour is when you are forced to to capitulate well then you can't be trusted it's as simple as that - the Mindset is "we'll try and get one over on you continually" (and that's all in the X reports it's how these new owners do business)
So if and when for example they ever get the RNG certified do we trust them Because it's still in their hands the day after See the issue . that they are 100% to blame for, they've poisoned their own well
This thread paused July 4-9 then Transparency bumps it again with a rehashed list of the same things discussed already, to get attention, a rogue marketing tactic on his part. Then he posts his talking points about the RNG in the other thread that’s at the top of the subforum lately, to get attention again in a new thread where the RNG is unrelated to it and off topic (then mods correctly moved it here, it is the above post).
Then he goes back to post there again with a lie, claiming a player didn’t get a mission, with an old screenshot from Coin’s Discord. But that player later posted he did get a Mission, worth 25% rb, the minor delay (he gets one less than a day later) was because it was a brand new player and Missions are personalized so require some minimal timeframe for that to be done.
Talk about tactics
It’s just what he’s posted last 2 months. Your OP is about 20 players and a small sample too as you said yourself.
Top 25 volume players 200nl with an avg lossrate of -7.43
And thats over 4 million hands
But then jspill shows a guy winning over 90k hands while claiming 4mil is a small sample
After being told thats nonsense it was all quiet on the western front
Especially about hidden reward systems
The tactic is easy:
step 1: copy paste ggpoker
step2: never admit it
This thread paused July 4-9 then Transparency bumps it again with a rehashed list of the same things discussed already, to get attention, a rogue marketing tactic on his part. Then he posts his talking points about the RNG in the other thread that's at the top of the subforum lately, to get attention again in a new thread where the RNG is unrelated to it and off topic (then mod
I despair with you Jspill - I don't know if it's maybe what you're smoking out there in the Far East or whatever but you maintain your a smart guy university grad etc
"This thread paused July 4-9 then Transparency bumps it again with a rehashed list of the same things discussed already, to get attention, a rogue marketing tactic on his part"
Now I can post on this thread as and when I wish but then you say
"Then he posts his talking points about the RNG in the other thread that's at the top of the subforum lately, to get attention again in a new thread where the RNG is unrelated to it and off topic (then mods correctly moved it here, it is the above post). "
Now I haven't posted on this thread in a week - Mike had posted last about the password issue and there's only one post since then which was moved here by Mike I presume - so how exactly did I "bump it" to get attention using a "rogue marketing tactic" - I never posted on the thread I posted elsewhere and it was moved here by a mod so how was I bumping anything
But in the same breath you then mention the mods moving the post here - so you just negate your whole argument within the same post
And the other thread entitled "nobody's winning .." In my view uncertified rng/trust issues might be pertinent to that discussion
Anyway we're back to the same old same old - deflect - there are only one bunch of people currently employing rogue marketing tactics - that's CoinPoker and their shills/enablers
I'm not marketing to anybody really - I'm just pointing out what's out there , highlighting it if you will and directing people to Coinpokers official threads and discord
But you really are a dummy Jspill that's obvious everytime you type and your an utter waste of my time
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And the missions That's Coinpokers email
" The My Mission feature is awarded on a personalized basis, so it is not currently available to every player."
That's pretty clear not every player gets them
That's what CoinPoker wrote
" As new campaigns are launched, eligible players will automatically receive access to Missions, and you may also receive notifications within the client when they become available."
What exactly am I missing here
I never posted on the thread I posted elsewhere and it was moved here by a mod so how was I bumping anything
But in the same breath you then mention the mods moving the post here
Post 248 in this thread was the bump, and post 249 about RNG is the one you posted in the rake thread that got moved here, two separate posts.
And as for "Rehashed list of things already discussed"
This is what you don't seem to get Jspill
When I highlight things and they aren't addressed properly (or at all) you don't get to bury them because you gave some half baked nonsensical answer
I understand that how it works a lot of the time , i understand that's how you and CoinPoker would like it to work but it's not happening not with me
So the fact I have to continually bringing up the same things isn't down to me it's down to you/coin
And that became obvious with your comments on the PokerNews video saying that people had "moved on" - nobody's moved on jspill nothing brought up in that video has been addressed by Coin it's as valid now as it was the day it came out - you even intimating that PokerNews now might have some different view on Coin just because pads and bobby were on it unrelated - I can assure you that you are 100% incorrect on that - but that's for another day WSOP is the news cycle at the moment
I never posted on the thread I posted elsewhere and it was moved here by a mod so how was I bumping anything
But in the same breath you then mention the mods moving the post here
Post 248 in this thread was the bump, and post 249 about RNG is the one you posted in the rake thread that got moved here, two separate posts.
I have no idea what your talking about -
Mike password last week
The post that got moved here by a mod
Then your post accusation of bumping (which I'd do if I liked but this is just to show your stupidity)
Post #248 is this one that lists 'facts that are all over X @pokerbots1' (your account).
Made on July 9, the thread had died down on July 4 with Mike's last post.
Please keep in mind (FACTS)1) Un Certified RNG (they changed from provably fair to RNG and that RNG is uncertified for use by them)2) They showed a Proof of Reserves to garner trust and Patrick Leonard stated it would always be on view - that got taken down and nobody knows as we stand today about the player funds situation- They will tell you "nobody else shows it" That's irre
What's that got to do with bumping this thread That was posted in the "no one's winning" thread
And it's not showing on this one
Here's the screenshot of it in the OTHER thread
It is showing here now for me, I didn't see that one get posted in the rake thread. Ok that's sort of even worse, to post that huge one summarizing your talking points from your containment thread, for attention in another thread.
What's that got to do with bumping this thread That was posted in the "no one's winning" thread And it's not showing on this oneHere's the screenshot of it in the OTHER thread
It is showing here now for me, I didn't see that one get posted in the rake thread. Ok that's sort of even worse, to post that huge one summarizing your talking points from your containment thread, for a
So now your whole post has been debunked as utter shite you're going to pivot to "you shouldn't post outside your containment thread" - who are you to tell me where to post CoinPokers own official thread addresses serious player concerns with misrepresentations
Those were all pertinent points for that discussion and they are still in it (and should stay)
You're just full of **** Jspill , you haven't brought one piece of useful information to any of this today , nor do you ever . And it's not even second rate garbage it's at some level below that I can't even find anything to describe it/you
Those were all pertinent points for that discussion and they are still in it (and should stay)
They're not showing in that thread for me, if mods moved it then it's not pertinent.
How is a proof of reserves being taken as a snapshot then being taken down, in any way related to rake, and other sites never even did a PoR snapshot at any point, let alone do a temporary one.
Talk about tactics
Top 25 volume players 200nl with an avg lossrate of -7.43
And thats over 4 million hands
But then jspill shows a guy winning over 90k hands while claiming 4mil is a small sample
After being told thats nonsense it was all quiet on the western front
Especially about hidden reward systems
The tactic is easy:
step 1: copy paste ggpoker
step2: never admit it
The OP of that other thread also said it's a small sample so I'm quoting his own words there, it was 24 players and the amount of hands those particular players played combined isn't the only metric here. They played 93k - 277k hands each.
A player in that thread posted 396k hands he played at 200nl and 100nl, beating the games for 4.75bb/100 in post #97. Another player posted that 8.2bb/100 winrate screenshot above.
His title was 'no one is winning' it is a small sample to make that claim, as shown by others in the thread not just me, and himself -he did to his credit go on to post the full datamined batch which is 405 players, and 71 of those were winning.
As OP also says, potentially the 24 are not table selecting. We don't know their playing habits, or the date range either, you are saying 'top volume' but isn't it just the top volume over a date range we're unaware of. I checked the datamining site to try to find out but it just says 'a batch of hands from the past'.
There are also people replying to this topic on X saying some of figures are inaccurate as they know the players, and on Reddit saying they did beat 200nl but then moved up, there's a winning mid stakes reg who made a good point on Reddit about the 'bias' in drawing a 'no one can win' conclusion given that.
People were asking me to stop posting in that thread so I respectfully did, but it was reasonable imo to question a 'no one is winning' claim.
What's that got to do with bumping this thread That was posted in the "no one's winning" thread And it's not showing on this oneHere's the screenshot of it in the OTHER thread
It is showing here now for me, I didn't see that one get posted in the rake thread. Ok that's sort of even worse, to post that huge one summarizing your talking points from your containment thread, for a
So now your whole post has been debunked as utter shite you're going to pivot to "you shouldn't post outside your containment thread" - who are you to tell me where to post CoinPokers own official thread addresses serious player concerns with misrepresentations
Those were all pertinent points for that discussion and they are still in it (and should stay)
You're just full of **** Jspill , you haven't brought one piece of useful information to any of this today , nor do you ever . And it's not even second rate garbage it's at some level below that I can't even find anything to describe it/you
Those were all pertinent points for that discussion and they are still in it (and should stay)
They're not showing in that thread for me, if mods moved it then it's not pertinent.
How is a proof of reserves being taken as a snapshot then being taken down, in any way related to rake, and other sites never even did a PoR snapshot at any point, let alone do a temporary one.
Because your shady bastards in absolutely EVERYTHING you SAY and DO - the rake , the increase , the convoluted opaque unverifiable rewards structure all part of the one big deceptive cauldron of **** that is CoinPoker - and it all needs to be talked about as a whole . And it will be , it won't be let become yesterdays news
That’s your post ….
And your words are that the replacement for the 15% are missions
And then today you accuse me of lying because I posted something about a player who didn’t get a mission
But Coinpokers email to a player states that missions aren’t guaranteed - “ Missions are assigned based on various campaign criteria” - There’s a big difference in that from the GUARANTEED 15% , this is some totally determined by CoinPoker “as and when” reward and it’s a complete misrepresentation to state to players as a whole that the 15% has been replaced with something “of a higher value”
And yet you just throw “liar” at me … like WTF
And when you stopped posting I actually thought someone with a bit of sense had told you to shut your mouth - because all you’ve done is just dig deeper holes for you / coin - the fact you can’t see that … here I don’t know 🤷♂️
The PROOF OF RESERVES
For the LAST time
No one else has one or has done one
CoinPoker did one to build TRUST - nobody forced you to do one , but you plastered it over your website and had Pads out front and centre promoting it and stating it would always be there
That bought you trust - you didn’t do it as some “freebie” it was to give the platform credibility . And a one off snapshot since removed what exactly did that prove ?? (Even worse Mario saying Coin had 3x the customer funds … like pull the other one lads)
And when it mysteriously disappeared- and no one had a reasonable explanation on it - indeed Leonard when questioned by me about it on the Omar show was all over the place , words to the effect of “what’s that , I’m not sure what you mean “ etc AFTER he had put it in his own promo stuff for Coin … his “I wills”
But again this is Pads who had no knowledge 2 years into a working relationship with Coin of who Miranda or Grunwerg were 😂😂 When on the same podcast Carrell was saying how he dealt all the time with “Sam and Mario”
Maybe Pads is the mushroom man ? Kept in the dark and fed full of shit ?? Nah I doubt that
Good Boy
