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The great "Poker is rigged" debate - Collected threads edition

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1 post · member since Jul 2008
17yr ago

Bad beats are part of the game. I understand that. But after absorbing more than my fair share on Poker Stars I switched

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10h ago

Yeah, you cant pass the test.

3 posts · member since Jul 2026
51m ago

I am 200 buy-ins plus below ev in 1M plus hands in holdem i dont know how its even possible lmao , they send me always like 150euros from winamax saying oh you got cheated but I literally never win flips and run like dog-shit

Stars same thing. Ive come to conclusion they PVI players and if your like a 4bb winner they make you 1bb in real money and give your 3bb to losers to stay around longer.

3 posts · member since Jul 2026
41m ago

Also the weirdest is in chico when the whale joins the game soooo frequently at 1k he runs his stack from 1k to like 12-15k any equity they have gets there. Like a whale only loses when they finally punt the money as bluff or do something complete insane but if they put it in with 4% its like 50% change they win. It's same PVI stuff.

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hunting4nemo avatarhunting4nemo
2yr ago

Maybe you should consider that there's smoke where the fire is when every person in this thread thinks you're a moron. You keep derailing important discussion around tangible issues on the site affecting a lot of posters livelihoods....

KOFighter
2yr ago

Seriously it's unfair that comedy writers get paid for their efforts and Monteroy who reminds me so much of 27bslash6 writing for some reason, did all this for free.

I earlier said he and his armies showed no mercy mocking us but that was an exaggeration and not true. He did show mercy by always suggesting us riggies never play again. He always kept offers open to take the time to read riggie hand history evidence too. If they did post the evidence, which of course hand history would prove nothing and always be explained away by variance, this is when Monteroys best comedy writing would come on display. "Stakes in which pennies are involved" type quotes come to my mind.

Of course it's likely Monteroy was accurately destroying most riggies, but also remains possible there was particular leaked security flaws which could let a user choose or know the next drawn card and a bot with this data is the one crushing them at the nanostakes. Afterall if you can make a working system for one stake it can work in all the stakes.

The riggies didn't think about the obvious angle, the software has plausible deniability security flaws built in to it and leaked to whoever the shot callers/software devs wanted. The sky is the limit for what info could be obtained by security flaws. In the recent GGpoker one it was Allin equity. If the rig is done in this way, it can always be explained and excused as accidental, legal blame could never be clearly placed on anyone, especially in most countries the poker software is hosted from.

Nevermind the easy cheats like bot farms and private RTA abuse that has been taking place since possibly the beginnings of online poker (When RTA went public it should be assumed it's been privately in use for at least a decade).
The best and easiest way to cheat is just old fashioned security flaw superuser type cheating and the people who it's leaked to just ensure their winrates stay within normal crusher range. Hell they could even have bot software that can interpret the security flaws info to play for you and keep winrates within normal range. That allin equity info on GGpokers built in security flaw from the emote is a money printer for anyone who knew it. Independent people finding it on their own and abusing it with too much greed is the only way it was ever caught.

Obviously there is gonna be more sec flaws to abuse for the evil men who eat good off our deposits.

MONTEROY WAS RIGHT, IF YOU ARE JUST A NORMAL COMMONER RIGGEY, FLEE ONLINE POKER.

Online poker is now seen as worse than slot machine tier gambling to me....

ejames209
1yr ago

Im very thankful that the site operators on the site I play online poker on were gracious enough to allow me to win. I feel bad for everyone they chose to rig poker against...