Set mining the BB
1/3 7players, folds to
BTN: Tight passive, young white woman (300) opens for 10. She overfolds to aggression and might ha
Hero had poor reads in the hand. His turn check was bad. But his preflop call and flop raise are pretty standard at low stakes.
Hero had poor reads in the hand. His turn check was bad. But his preflop call and flop raise are pretty standard at low stakes.
I like setmining more than I think most do here, and I agree with your general points. At the risk of further pounding this horse into paste...
The "Tight" (Q4 lol...) BU doesn't give H sufficient IO if we're just considering her stack + OOP, & H isn't closing the action. BU wakes up with a 4! a non-trivial amount of the time here, given the read.
Tbh, here I'd prefer H sticks in the 4! vs calling, and I don't like doing that with 55. No blockers, equity-when-called isn't great, we're obviously folding to BU shove and probably SB's too, though that depends on OP's image: Better hands to 4!/f with. I grit my teeth and fold.
Make her stack the size of H's and I can get behind a call.
I now agree that it is a fold preflop. I don't see how you can average enough profit when you hit, particularly since you lose much more on average when you hit and lose than when you hit and win.
Balancing 4betting range with 5s for 1/3 live game because its the solver “correct play”.
Meanwhile opponents would happily call the 4bet with Q6 suited or whatever and having 50% equity against 5s. That we could have dominated easily 4betting whatever, Q9? cuz why not?
I can already hear the inner screaming when we find ourselves getting outdrawn with 5s .. !%#*#+} wtf is this fish doing calling with Q6 suited? - when they “suck out” hitting a middle pair, call flop and turn cbet, and proceed to win the hand because we chicken out on our bluff as “we could find better spot with no showdown value to bluff with, right? 5s should win sometimes here against missed high cards like AQ”.
Its a 1/3 live game. Save ur energy for spots that really matters. A simple question like “this dude from sb overplaying? Yes. Then I set mine 20% here for the lulz. “
Though I much respect you guys, I disagree with any fold pre people. I was sure I wouldn’t be raised and I almost always get paid with a set.
I came around and agree it was fold pre
Hero (650) calls with 5s5h. I know this play is a marginal, but I didn’t think the button was strong enough to raise me off my hand.
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You think I don’t listen, but it’s clear that getting OOL in this spot was -EV.
Just because I didn’t expect to get 4Bet was not enough of an excuse to get involved.
The main problem is that you guys just make me nittier, but I guess getting out of line is never real smart at low stakes.
I came around and agree it was fold pre
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The main problem is that you guys just make me nittier, but I guess getting out of line is never real smart at low stakes.
It was very hard for me to give up on low PP as well even though I've seen that advice repeatedly from a lot of sources.
My tactic for getting nittier, and I can be quite nitty depending on the table, is to get tighter calling and looser leading. In a very rough guesstimation, about once every dozen hours, I'll lead with mid SC and smack the flop super hard. That one time is usually enough to double me up and make my session a >1BI win.
It was very hard for me to give up on low PP as well even though I've seen that advice repeatedly from a lot of sources.
The hard truth is that I considered myself playing a polarized range, but the bluffs I used were too random. I was blistered here (knvd) and revisited my thoughts pre-flop.
No more random hands
I’m better structuring my ranges, so that I get out of line with more equity.
The difficulty in low pairs is that when you make a set, you almost never lose. They should be folded, but it feels sick when one flops after you fold. I have to learn to take this more in stride.
I’m a very disciplined person
I can do the right thing, but it’s not always clear. That’s why I’m here gathering advice
If I can improve my game, it’s worth being bashed on here by fifteen year olds and middle age guys with no life. Fortunately, there’s a lot of good posters here with nothing to prove. It makes up for the annoying insults from the little people.
It’s like in game, it takes awhile to separate the good posters from the arrogant. We all make mistakes, it’s ok, that’s why we’re here.
I do apologize because I’m so headstrong that I can be abrasive. I really want help - and I don’t want to offend people willing to help me
I’m very thankful for all advice, even if I disagree.
I consider this forum a happy place with a few unhappy posters. Poker is important to me, but I’ve never been happier in my life with or without it. I have a lot of interests.
My goal is to better relate with everyone here. I have made mistakes, but continue to improve.
If I can improve my game, it’s worth being bashed on here by fifteen year olds and middle age guys with no life.
Lmao. What a ridiculous case of coping/projection from the middle aged "old hand" throwing a temper tantrum and refusing to learn hardly anything after being told to look at the mosz basic stuff in preflop charts
This subforum might have the worst discussion of poker "strategy" of any place on the internet. Theres hardly any good posters here, they all leave for reasons demonstrated in this thread, ill certainly refrain from posting any actual good advice in the future to users such as yourself
